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[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I actually think this is funny. And alarming, but not the way I hear people talk about this. I feel like Apple was really smart here, offering a fairly measly, cheap, pointless trinket to continue making money hand over fist in the US. Tim was smart here, ROI must have been MASSIVE for that with the tariffs and such.

However the real reason I think this is interesting is that it shows publicly and blatantly just how easily Trump can be paid off and placated and should have been be a huge wake up call for ANY of his supporters and peers. Between this and the FIFA trinket, no one in government should be so easily bought/paid off. I never got why people didn't go after Trump legally and in the news for even thinking of accepting something like this.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I made a lot of money in Apple stock over this event. I bought in after the verbal assault, and sold after the gifting.

So it definitely worked.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, for me (who hates Apple), this didn't reflect poorly on them really. It reflected poorly on our system, where open bribes are applauded instead of punished, and where our leader can be purchased so easily. Apple just made a smart play. It isn't their fault this was the smart thing to do.

[–] Waffelmeister@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It isn’t their fault this was the smart thing to do.

Oh my, the shit ~~Americans~~ people say. Reminded me of this.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This shit happens everywhere, and that quote is a perfect example. The system is fucked. It's a matter of fact that Trump is better off because he didn't pay taxes. There were no penalties, because that's the system they designed. There's plenty to hate him for, and for being a part of creating that system and incentives, but you would be dumb to not abuse it.

This same thing happens literally everywhere. If there's something to take advantage of, someone is doing it. Those holes just need to be patched. If you think there's somewhere that doesn't have these issues, I'd love to know where.

[–] Waffelmeister@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Just because a system is designed a certain (amoral) way, doesn't mean you HAVE to use it in that way.

Trump and many others may think it's smart to not pay taxes because of the immediate advantage of having more money. But I'd argue, it's actually a stupid thing to do. Especially for wealthy people. They profit more from government services like a well equiped police force, good infrastructure, health services that keep their employees healthy, etc. They are just to stupid or shortsighted to factor all variables in.

Also I think societal norms and individual identity plays a big role in such decisions. I mean, why are you on lemmy and not on reddit? Isn't it smarter to use reddit since there is more content, more users who read your comments? Maybe reddit just banned you and you have no viable alternative. But there is also the possibility that you are aware of the shortcomings of reddit and arrived at the decision that it's actually smarter to use lemmy.

In the end, it's your descision who you want to be. Do you want to be they guy who doesn't pay taxes and brags about it? Or the guy who thinks it's so smart to bribe the president? Do you want to be the guy who reads bot comments on reddit all day and gobbles up their rage bait? Even if society deems certain descisons as smart, they are very often not.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The thing is, they're a mega corporation. There is zero chance of them being moral. My opinion of them is already that they aren't moral. It isn't harmed by this action because morality was never something I thought they'd have.

[–] Waffelmeister@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

That's true. I was more talking about regular people defending such behaviour.