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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/52272272

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] stickly@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, I forgot

  • ...facts were determined by public opinion polls?
  • ...that the Soviets definitely didn't rely on wartime propaganda? Or maybe that official US and UK documents didn't show officials conceding to support and amplify USSR propaganda in order to stabilize a fragile wartime cooperation?
  • ...that people of war ravaged mainland Europe had a magical ability to fully digest and comprehend the largest war in human history a few months after it ended? Including contributions from continents on the other side of the world?
  • ...that the general population of Europe in 1945 (many born in the 19th century; before planes, trucks, tanks; in an age where sailing ships still had value; before widespread use of even the basic machine gun) had a strong appreciation for the rapid advancement of military technology and the ballooning complexity of modern warfare? They certainly were doing a deeper analysis than looking at frontlines and death tolls.
  • ...that they all had immediate access to the still highly classified documents on military technology, strategy and logistics? [Christ, May 1945 was still months before THE ATOMIC BOMBS were dropped...]
  • ...that internal Nazi documents didn't show a strong strategic reaction to the threat of US involvement, US & UK strategic bombing, and newly opened Allied fronts? Hitler was ordering troops away from the battle of Kursk toward Italy... just for fun I guess. The random French citizen clearly knew better.

Wtf are we even trying to say here... Classic ML chart that masquerades as an argument ending bombshell but actually means fucking nothing.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why would anyone think the US of all countries?

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago
[–] Godric@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Yes, the Soviets did eventually go to war with Nazi Germany after a few years, finding out the hard way fascists don't honor Friendship Treaties, nobody would dispute that.