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‘You Go To Hell!’: Trump Ends Convention With The Most Bizarre Pledge You'll Ever Hear
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A Christian is, by definition, someone who believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ. He doesn't have to exist for real Christians to exist. All that's required is the belief.
I spent hours debating someone who could not acknowledge this. I kept trying to point out that the entire notion of christ is built on the idea that an abusive god demands blood sacrifice, and they kept insisting christians can believe whatever they want.
They said the christian bible is one of many different christian texts, which is true, but they refused to acknowledge that most christians find that text in particular very important. It's why it's known as "the christian bible," and the best-selling book of all time.
They said not all christians believe Jesus is god, and they cited catholicism as an example, to which I brought up the Nicene creed and quotes from the pope. If one believes Jesus is christ, why would one reject what Jesus supposedly said about being the son and the father? What sense does a savior, messiah, christ make without the threat of punishment to save us from?
My position is that because there is no such thing as a real christ, there is no such thing as a real christian. Every one is a fake christian. They each interpret Jesus differently because no one today actually knows what he was like, and the accounts we have of his life contradict each other. The label has become so meaningless, I have no idea what someone actually believes when they say they are christian, but I know they are not thinking critically.
I think you're right, though. I wouldn't say a theist is a fake theist, I would say there's no reason to believe in god. I guess I should take the same approach when it comes to christ. I just wish I could splash cold water on humanity's face. Too many christians break out the "no true scotsman" fallacy when another christian disagrees with them or does something they don't like, failing to recognize that their own baseless views can be just as harmful, failing to recognize that they're normalizing the exact magical thinking they're criticizing. I want humans to stop playing make-believe when our lives are at stake.