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Can I get a smug lecture on how you're choosing the third, disconnected track?

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

You are saying they are the same "same precinct"/"same pay checks"

They are not the same.

  1. Vote in the lesser evil
  2. Do whatever you were gong to do when the more evil was in charge...but be able to do it faster.
[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it'll be faster under either party. They are collaborating to stop you from correcting the system. You're literally doing the thing I said you shouldn't do. Don't trust the Good Cop. They aren't actually making your life easier, they aren't actually interest in your liberation. They are your enemy every bit as much as the Bad Cop is your enemy. They behave differently, and I don't disagree on that, but the behavioral difference is designed to make your tired and stressed brain latch on to them as a viable option. And you are falling for it.

The only option is dismantling the system. Both parties will be dissolved, and not in succession, because they literally depend on each other to exist. Why do you think they took over elections from the League of Women Voters with a bi-partisan non-profit? It's not because they were going to be an open and democratic operation. It's because they agreed to maintain the system together. And it's not like they hide it. Democrats cross the aisle and vote with Republicans CONSTANTLY. They dance with each other in various state houses. They done together. Their kids go to the same schools, they share accountants and baby sitters and chauffeurs and sex slave vendors and doctors. They are literally collaborative colleagues with a shared purpose and shared constituency.

Yes, do the bare minimum and vote. But stop wasting your time on it electoralism. Stop canvassing for candidates. Stop fund raising for them. Stop fighting with people who are not fooled by the Good Cop / Bad Cop routine. And for fucks sake stop falling for it.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, dismantle the system....but dismantle it with dems in charge.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

LOL. If that's a precondition, it's doing exactly what's intended. If it's not a precondition, then focus on the dismantling and watch the Dems try to stop you just as hard as the Repubs.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So vote for republicans if that's the better of the two options? The cannot be EXACTLY the same. One is killing people in the streets right now.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No. You are confused. The US government is killing people in the streets right now. Every year the US government kills people in the streets in the hundreds. And the US government arms white supremacists and fails to prosecute them when they kill people. The entire media apparatus is equally complicit. Both parties run the government. Obama appointed the same guy to deport 3M people as Trump appointed in both terms. Biden chose to do literally nothing about de Joy running the USPS and openly declaring his intentions when he could have, but it wasn't politically easy especially because de Joy had bipartisan support.

You don't get it. The Republicans are LITERALLY in the public relations position to act the way they act and the Democrats are in the public relations position to act the way they act because psycho-socially it covers the largest range of the bell curve of public sentiment. They divide the work of public relations and then literally collaborate and support each other in managing the affairs of the state in a continuous process.

That's why Obama carried out the wars planned by Bush, and why Trump used the DHS and ICE powers created by Obama and why Obama bailed out the banks after they crashed the economy using the openings created by Clinton and why both parties have been steadfast in killing babies and pregnant mothers via sanctions and why both parties have zero interest in restoring the 350+ broken treaties with the indigenous of this land and why both parties continually increase military spending and continually preside over increasing white supremacist gun violence and police violence (but I repeat myself) and why both parties condemn anything that Bernie and AOC say that are mildly left.

I understand that the Republican PR strategy creates more of this violence than the Democrat PR strategy but the Democrats have never done anything about it because they understand their role in the collaborative system and it's not to defeat the Republicans.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So they are EXACTLY the same?

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's such a bad question. The Good Cop is not going to be exactly the same as the Bad Cop and yet they work for the exact same precinct with the exact same goals.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 hours ago

They aren't the same. One play offence, the other plays defense. They're both on the same team