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Can I get a smug lecture on how you're choosing the third, disconnected track?

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[–] BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My point this whole time has been this, let me be clear one more time: You will not get out of this dichotomy.

Defeatism, neat. Anyways, yes you can. Not by keeping the thing going though. Which is why I pointed out that, by your logic, one should vote third party. You're the one arguing for this. Personally, I realise the electoral system is completely fucked and the only thing you gain by voting democrat is normalising them and legitimising the system. But you don't. And, again, by your logic, one ought to vote third party.

Perhaps you’re too young and haven’t seen enough R’s, but time will teach you.

Lmao, alright. I've been around long enough to know there's no difference, and seemingly longer than you, since you can't seem to remember what Obama did.

when R’s are objectively much much worse

They objectively aren't.

The only way “out” is through someone like Bernie who captures the D-establishment,

Right... The only way out is through a party stooge who let himself get ratfucked twice, is a supporter of Israel and does whatever the dems need him to do. Buddy, you've been sheepdogged to hell.
Not to mention that it's not the only way out. You people keep acting as if voting (and specifically voting for democrats) is the only thing to do. You then also, once you've talked enough, come to admit that they suck just as much ass and are part of the same system republicans are part of, and by voting for them you only perpetuate the system. Yet, if someone points this out, you start screeching like you're an inquisitioner seeing a heretic.

But humor me, tell me who’s your alternative now, and what chances to they have?

To win this specific election right now? No one. But I'm capable of thinking longer term than that. You claim to, since you keep arguing about prolonging things and kicking the can down the road and so on, yet somehow any actual long-term plan makes you screech "THEY CANT DO EVERYTHING RIGHT THIS INSTANT!!!!" Yeah alright, let's vote for genociders, then.
Personally I am convinced the electoral system is so completely captured that if a viable third party would ever arise, then it would immediately be captured or crushed. Which would probably help make people realise they don't live in a democracy and need to organise outside the electoral system.
And yeah, that is the alternative - Organising outside the electoral system. Creating structures of power outside it, from which political resistance can grow.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 0 points 14 minutes ago (1 children)

Ah, a vague revolution that will one day solve everything. Fantastic.

In the mean time, please just vote a D. Any D. For the Iranian schoolgirl's sake. I've already laid out what Trump has done, and even before him the last R gave us a massive refugee crisis in Europe. So just vote against that while organizing your resistance, please.

[–] BanMeFromPosting@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Ah, a vague revolution that will one day solve everything. Fantastic.

Not at all what I was saying. You still haven't answered why you do this. You get answers to your questions and then instead of relating to the answers you make up something I (and others) haven't said, nor which can be concluded from what has been said. At this point I must conclude youre doing it on purpose and you're just a troll. This will therefore be my last response to you, unless you manage to act in good faith & answer my questions.

In the mean time, please just vote a D.

Ive already told you I won't vote for fascist genociders.

For the Iranian schoolgirl’s sake.

Absolute ghoul. You have absolutely no shame, do you?

Trump.

Right, and I laid out why hes functionally the same as a dem. You decided to move right past it, and move right past me asking you why you do so.

even before him the last R gave us a massive refugee crisis in Europe.

You mean the one that came as a result from the colour revolutions and indescriminate drone bombings enacted under Obama? And the "crisis" youre talking about was more or less a manufactured media stunt. The actual numbers from that year show no dramatic increase in refugees. You probably know this, you are supporting fascists after all.