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[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Is this really enshittification?

Prior to the deregulation of the airlines under Carter, the federal government fixed all domestic airfares. Airlines could not compete against each other on price and could only compete on perks. Flying was insanely expensive. NY to LA was $820 in today's dollars and you couldn't just shop around airlines for a better price, while you can get the same flight for less than $240 now.

It's not like flying got shittier while also getting more expensive. Flying is cheaper than it ever has been. The perks went down, sure. But so did the price. By a LOT.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really disagreeing with you, but I was curious if that $240 includes all the crazy fees they tack on now.

[–] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that is all in, fare, fees, and taxes. Flying is dirt cheap lol.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like it should be expensive because of the externalized costs , but I don't have any real data for that

[–] kestrel7_7@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

They call them “externalized costs” specifically because they can ignore them. Things like pollution don’t cost a firm money in a measurable way unless they’re carbon taxed or something like that.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

long distance calls from airplanes were $5 a minute.