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The field of AI is large and has some embarrassingly simple programs that have absolutely nothing to do with human (or animal) intelligence.
LLMs still belong to the more complex examples. But get marketed by and to people who have never heard of ELIZA or the ELIZA effect. And it shows.
Most journalists aren't doing their jobs, and politicians ignore all experts for short-term gains.
Yes! I'm sure it's pedantic, but the term AI was coined during the 1956 Dartmouth Conference. It was meant to refer to the emerging field of computerized "intelligence" or decision making.
Technically the ghosts in Pacman are properly AI, just a really simple algorithm. The pioneering Perceptron, backgammon algorithms, automated control. It's all AI, it's just some of it is very primitive.
Whether or not current LLM based AI are"genuinely intelligent" is beside the point.
For people unfamiliar with the ELIZA Effect, that was discovered in the 1960s with super early chatbot algorithms.
I attempted a presentation at work in the early days of LLM adoption at work and was told "that is counterproductive to this effort."
That's cool and all, but an LLM just built me a dashboard for visualizing data, following my instructions and asking clarifying questions when it needed my input. I don't care what you call it, it's the most impressive new technology and the most powerful software tool I have seen in years.
There absolutely is a real and useful and even groundbreaking technology here, but that conversation is muted by the way CEOs have pushed it on people like it's the next industrial age, trying to replace and automate whoever possible, and oligarchs have used fear mongering to basically scam the entire fucking country at once and take a trillion in funds to build AI data centers and use exponential amounts of energy just because it can code a little bit better if you throw another 100 billion at it.
I use it and appreciate some of what it can do, and it's not perfect but it is still very useful. But for fucks sake they could have handled this a little better than dumping so much into they trigger the next economic crisis.
Auto-complete is a legitimate valuable technology and I’d buy the argument that LLMs made for a much better auto-complete (in some situations).
No one’s going to think that a better auto-complete is a trillion dollar technology, though, so they instead wrapped it in a chat interface so you get a better ELIZA and can use that to fool people into thinking it’s more than what it is.
What are your thoughts on the latest math dump? Reminder that we're still essentially at the beginning.
They had to retract three of the findings almost immediately.
That tells me you can’t rely on whatever model they are using and instead they’re more likely just generating a much larger set of (mostly wrong) random results and then trying to filter out the invalid ones.
The dump is large enough that there should probably be some legitimate results in there, but that’s just emulating a million monkeys hammering away at a million keyboards.
The math dump has affected me less than the reverse-engineered Adobe suite and the flood of Opus-animated videos.
Pretty interesting and if anything out of it is real, then it's a significant breakthrough in machine learning. It means we have computer automation to automate research itself, which hopefully should amplify technological progress and not just replace workers, but it's concerning that we have to consider that impact in the first place.
Someone else said it's like a "million monkeys hitting a million typewriters". That's incredibly dismissive, but I think there's also a sliver of truth to it.
The randomness and hallucination/error rate is a spectrum here. It's not 100% random like a million monkeys hitting a million keyboards, but there's still some hallucinations that lead to big mistakes.
You see the same thing in computer security. There's a ton of "slop vuln reports", but now and then, one is real. The fact that generative AI can generate a real one now and then means that it's actually doing something interesting and powerful, yet that doesn't mean we'll necessarily see it hit 100% ever. I think we have to accept that it generates slop by design and someone needs to sift through slop in all various forms.
I think the AI oligarchs are realizing, and the rest of us are slowly seeing, is that you don't get exponential improvement by adding more datacenters. Maybe sigmoid or logarithmic. And we might not be able to get enough training data to make the AGI everyone dreamed of.
But there might be this middle ground where humans still actually train and work in these fields and use AI to help automate some aspects like today and sift through some slop when applicable and we greatly accelerate technological progress. This middle ground is not what they promised investors, and they're going to cause a financial crisis when investors realize it's slowing down to a halt, and they still have to pay employees.
It's always a dashboard. 😂
I guess you never saw the original apollo program code...