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[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Voting doesn't remove your ability to do other things as well. The car going off the cliff slower gives you more time to do those other things.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 58 minutes ago

For the record I mostly agree with you, but those other things necessarily require twisting the centrists' arms, which means hitting them where it hurts (votes being one of the more obvious targets). To unpack the metaphor, putting all of one's political capital into slower fascism naturally means that little to none of it will be going to no fascism; for example "implement this policy I want or I won't vote for you" is a classic way to force politicians to do things but it's impossible to pull off if your ultimate priority is preserving the slower fascism coalition. You can remember the Palestine protests for what that looks like in practice, but the short of it is that there are things you can't do if you decide you're never going to publicly oppose the centrists.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

....ITs already goong off the cliff. Look at Sudan, Lebanon, Yemen, Palestine, Iran, Mexico, Colombia, and The Congo and then tell me that the car isnt goimg off the cliff already loool!🤭😏

ALSO have you seen what effects climate change is ALREADY having on different places on the planet?

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't disagree. Climate change is bad, and fascism is bad. No argument here. However, a government that causes less harm is preferable to a government that causes more. This is why voting, alongside a suite of other tactics (protests, strikes, civil disobedience, etc) are necessary if you're interested in saving lives.

If you're not, and are willing to sacrifice people on the altar of some hypothetical post-collapse better world, then i vehemently disagree.

[–] UnequalExchange@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

....there are ALREADY people being sacrificed....wot?

...you didnt read my comment?