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Man its like you guys are immune to understanding nuance.
Nuance is irrelevant when talking about overt, obvious, straightforward actions Trump has taken that has tanked the economy.
If you wanted to talk about a president making small, measured changes to finance legislation we can talk about nuance. If you want to talk about the potential economic impacts of moving away from fossil fuels or pressuring the Fed on some rate changes, we can talk about nuance. If you want to dive into the details of subtle tax policy changes over time we can talk about nuance.
He started a war unprovoked. He kidnapped a head of state of another sovereign nation unprovoked. He has started multiple trade wars. He has threatened and destroyed the economic relationships with most of America's closest historical allies. He had DOGE, which was an unprecedented, illegal, and unconstitutional gutting of government services, which didn't even cut government spending by as much as conservatives would want because a lot of the money was already spent, meaning he just made sure America got nothing in exchange for what they already paid for.
That isn't nuance. We are beyond the realms of nuance.
are you sure you are not not just projecting here?
Look I get it, in NORMAL conditions, you are correct... any regular president that engages in normal parameters (and that already includes the standard corruption baked into the system) you are correct. There is little they can do to move inflation, reduce prices, etc
However, how can you deny that the orange turd actions have no bearings in how the economy is reacting?
Explain it to me, how does declaring war on Iran and the very predictable closure of the Strait of Hormuz, has no bearings on the heighten price of oil and therefore oil derivatives
Im not trying to claim that Donald Trump hasnt hindered the world economy and enriched himself in the process, I am only claiming he has very limited control over immediate market conditions.
Yes, I understood what you were saying... but I disagree.
Can trump "fix" the world economy by pushing one button? no... can he make things way worse with one message on his garbage truth social? absolutely he can...
So how can you claim he does not have control over immediate market conditions?
He has spent the majority of the last two years trying to get the fed to lower interest rates and couldn't just do it because of a previously appointed fed chair. Yes he has a lot of power and he can do things that influence the market, and especially can do long term damage. However he can't just pick a day and say "this is the day I'm going to make the stock market crash to make my opponents look bad." The most he can do is a little pump and dumping in that regard because he has such a large mouthpiece and people still listen to the shit that comes out of him.
Ok this tells me you don't know how any of that works...
No? what if he were to sign an executive order banning SpaceX from gov contracts (something he already did for Anthropic), do you think SpaceX stock would be unchanged?
Would definitley cause the stock to move in a predictable way yes. However it would not make or break it. Can you point to anything he has done in the last month to cause tech stocks to fall. Or is it far more reasonable to assume a market that was already experiencing a correction over the last month got fresh news of a different future than stockholders expected.
Exactly what you said the orange menace was utterly unable to do.
What if he does that, and starts a war and insult allies, and fires a ton of gov employees?... I could go on but it seems you won't take anything as proof of how much BAD influence the orange pedophile has had
Why would he want tech stock to fall? he has been grifting off them so far... and what's next, are you going to frame it the question in such a narrow way so that it's literally impossible for me to answer?
You have lost the plot man, my original comment was about the absurdity of assuming that DT just tanked stocks for a political win against dems.