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I'm 40+. I remember actual winters. With snow. Lots more snow than we've gotten in the last 20 years.
Exactly! 46 here I remember when we had seasons, not fucking 80 degrees in November. I remember needing a jacket to go trick or treating during Halloween. It 75 degrees today where I live for high. This shit is real, and just go look at your rivers and lakes if you want to see the real effects of climate change as well.
I grew up in Ohio in the '70s. The first snowfall was usually in late September. The ground was completely covered in snow in October and you didn't see grass again until some time in April. The snow wasn't completely gone until May and the giant mounds of plowed snow usually lasted into June. More than six months of serious Winter every year, nothing like that happening today.
I'm just saying young people believe in climate science and apparently thats a hot take.
just feels like a irrelevant detail and wants a fight. I remember white Christmases and brown ones. No need to minimize to my experiences because I haven't lived 40+ winters, but know damn well 110⁰ summer days. I'm just bummed that because of greedy fucks my generation will be cooked to death before our best by date, fingers crossed we start world war 3 and nuked before that.
If you actually want to understand why you got push back then that's not actually what you said, or implied. Your wording was a rebuttal of the statement that average older people have personally observed the pattern of climate changing. Young people believing in climate science at a higher rate than older people can also be true and is not contradictory.
The point you seem to have missed is the older people should not need to "believe" - they have literally experienced the change and should be able to observe the pattern and draw a logical conclusion.
The problem you are raising is real, but it's a totally different one - the impact of propaganda and rationalising something that isn't true. When you talk to your parents get them to talk about when they were kids, ask them what winters were like, the example in thread about Halloween is a great one - get them talking about trick or treating as a kid, was it cold etc then you can gently point out that it wasn't like that for you (if that example doesn't work pick another).
The point though is your parents are wilfully ignoring the evidence of their own senses most likely because Fox news and their conservative friends told them to, and that social pressure is greater than logic.