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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

And if the Dems don't mount a REALLY effective campaign and candidate, she might be the leading bet for who's gonna win.

She is the ONLY one left who captures even a sliver of Trump's base. But she also has the appeal of people thinking they're making a "liberal" choice with her. And make no mistake, most of the country does not follow politics or drama and know zilch about her, only that she sounds "down home country" the way she talks and she don't wanna associate wit dat there Trump fellow after he diddled dem kids.

When media and interviews turn their eyes to her and start grilling her on the batshit things she said like jewish space lasers and so on, it will only serve to launch her higher in viewership and attention. Trump won on this tactic and Dems still worry about a "perfect candidate" who will preserve the status quo that nobody cares about outside their dusty halls of ancient pageantry and old money.

We are SO fucked.

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think enough of the MAGA base is incapable of voting for a woman that she starts in a pretty deep hole even within her party. I don’t see her getting the nomination, and if she does I see her struggling to inspire turnout in the general. Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If that is what you think, you are 40years and 2 steps behind. Misogynistic rhetoric hasn't been en vogue since the 80's, and if you think Hillary or Kamala lost only because they were women, you really don't have anything useful to say and instead are leaning on the trope of "common wisdom."

[–] noahm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

There’s literally a movement within MAGA to repeal the right of women to vote. Yes, I absolutely believe that the misogyny is present in today’s GOP. Further, multiple polls and other research studies have found that a significant number of voters in the US does not support the idea of a woman for president. Here are a few references:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1532673X251369844

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4782780-americansready-female-president-dipping-survey/

Anecdotally, Michelle Obama recently observed the same thing: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5607777-michelle-obama-us-not-ready-woman-president/

And if you combine her observation with the GOP views on women as president reflected in this pew research poll (notably “Republicans (86%) are twice as likely as Democrats (43%) to say it is not at all or not too important if they ever see a woman elected U.S. president”), I think there’s ample reason to believe that a Republican candidate for president would struggle to gain support from a statistically relevant group of voters.

And no, I do not think that Clinton And Harris lost only because they’re women. I did not say that at. Evidence suggests that misogyny was one of many factors, though.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.

What with the hypocrisy and shifting goalposts for MAGA/GOP types, a female Trump 2.0 would seem quite plausible to my eyes. These types don't care for conserving anything in particular nor for standing up afor any fixed set of values. They are, quite literally going along with the flow.