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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Zelenskyy did it. Ukraine would no longer exist as a sovereign nation today if he didn't; it would have been entirely annexed into Russia right now.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. In the US right now, only a comedian is capable of getting the joke. It works everywhere else it's been tried. Vote Stewart!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice! How could I have forgotten this guy? Great reference

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did real life end up more grimdark than Watchmen?

[–] MrSmith@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, Trump did it and he was a fucking TV clown. The bar is really, really, reaaaaaaally low for who can become the next US president.

[–] Mandrilleren@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago

Probably not. It's pretty common in history that leaders that are great In crisises aren't as great in peace times. But it doesn't really matter because what Ukraine needed was the president they had.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It'd be a better analog if everything else Zelenskyy has done as president wasn't eclipsed by Russia invading. Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn't happened? We'll never know.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He stepped up as a leader when his nation needed him. That is one of the best qualities to have. Anything else is just whatsboutism that can be applied to anyone.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nobody is questioning his bravery or accomplishments, but peacetime politics require particular skills.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

The US is in far from normal times. It may not be a military war (yet) but this sure as hell isn’t “peacetime”

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The question is moot. He was the right person at the right time

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would he have been considered a good president if that hadn't happened? We'll never know.

A quick glance back shows very much no. However, he stepped up for the war.

I'm curious why you didn't think he was a good president.

He made a lot of very popular moves between 2019 and 2022.