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As of this week, half of the states in the U.S. are under restrictive age verification laws that require adults to hand over their biometric and personal identification to access legal porn.

Missouri became the 25th state to enact its own age verification law on Sunday. As it’s done in multiple other states, Pornhub and its network of sister sites—some of the largest adult content platforms in the world—pulled service in Missouri, replacing their homepages with a video of performer Cherie DeVille speaking about the privacy risks and chilling effects of age verification.

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 415 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Everyone who ever submits for age verification will have their information stolen. It is a matter of when, not if.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 127 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I mean, a VPN is way cheaper than whatever hoops Idaho wants you to jump through to watch some 10/10 goth hottie get their ass eaten.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Yea, but soon we’ll have no states to vpn to, and we will have to start using the Quebec servers, then all the websites will be in French and I’ll have to learn a new language.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 58 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Omelette du fromage. Omelette du fromage!

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I VPN to Montreal servers. Everything is still displayed in English.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Your response is also supposed to be legally in French.

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Interesting…all of it? I’m in Ontario but my hub/ISP is in Quebec so all my random advertising is in French.

Somehow it knows to target advertising to you in English…maybe you need to work on your privacy?

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've got a lot of privacy stuff, but I also know that I'm being tracked. I'm not using the VPN for privacy though. I'm using it to watch porn, so I don't really care. If I did want privacy there's a lot of things I could improve, but I'm not that worried about it.

As for the targeted advertising, I don't see any of that. I wouldn't be surprised if that were in French but I wouldn't know.

Yeah…I don’t really know what I’m talking about…it’s not like I make much of an effort for privacy. I’m guess it’s just my particular ISP. It’s like…the random advertising is in French…but if they know who I am it’s targeted…it’s mixed.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Languages accepted by the user is like the second header in http. It's in all your requests.

[–] ferrule@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

because you actually watch porn for the plot?

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

This is the plan all along. It’s not about porn, it’s not even about control. It’s about teaching Americans a second language. You know who’s behind this? Duolingo and Big Language.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

soon we’ll have no states to vpn to

I've yet to see any state legislature take that proposal seriously. Unlike trying to make porn sites take your credit card info in advance (a policy they hated so much gosh darn it!) you're really fucking with the money when you try and regulate VPNs. Also, just... not really that practical. For the same reason Congress has been pretty toothless when it comes to regulating Torrents and digital encryption, going after VPNs at the regulatory level is something of a technological rabbit hole.

then all the websites will be in French

Nothing will ever make anyone on the internet learn a language other than English.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’ve yet to see any state legislature take that proposal seriously

snekerpimp meant if every state requires ID, then VPN to another state will not get around the ID check.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Setting aside the fact that there's no appetite for these laws in liberal states because its purely a conservative fetish, you can still get porn on the internet without going to the big corporate online clearinghouses.

FFS, there was porn on Napster back in the day.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's no appetite for these laws in the voter public of any state, as far as I can tell given how VPN usage skyrockets in every state where these laws are put in place. Is California no longer liberal? Also consider the people running sites in any of the states that have such a law. They may resort to just blanket ID-checking everyone rather than risk prosecution.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There’s no appetite for these laws in the voter public of any state

Evangelical right-wing states have a huge contingent of politicians who compete with one another to be the toughest on "child sex trafficking" and other Epstein-tangential topics. So, in the GOP primary, you get a lot of promises about how you're going to round up all the pedos and put them to the sword or whatever. And this inevitably manifests as "please insert your dick into this pepper grinder to access the pornography" laws, as a sort-of practical compromise.

Is California no longer liberal?

Current Status: Failed (2024-08-15: In committee: Held under submission.)

Looks like they're retaining their title. That said, if you peak under the "Supporters and Opponents" what you're going to see in the Supporters section is a litany of right-wing evangelical organizations and a couple of mega-corps.

They may resort to just blanket ID-checking everyone rather than risk prosecution.

The current strategy appears to be refusing to host content in the regulated states. Even then, there are plenty of social media and general content distribution channels that dodge the regulation by claiming to be content-blind in how they serve their data. I don't see Facebook or YouTube getting the business end of any of these regulations. Almost as though they're toothless if you've got enough money to tip your Congresscritters.

Evangelical right-wing states have a huge contingent of politicians who compete with one another to be the toughest on "child sex trafficking" and other Epstein-tangential topics. So, in the GOP primary, you get a lot of promises about how you're going to round up all the pedos and put them to the sword or whatever. And this inevitably manifests as "please insert your dick into this pepper grinder to access the pornography" laws, as a sort-of practical compromise.

I'd say rather than a compromise, the "protect the children!" porn bans are an excuse to go after LGBTQ content by marking any and all content related to them as explicit and demonizing them as pedophiles going after children. They don't care who it hurts along the way.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Napster was audio only. Did you mean limewire, or kazaa, or one of the many napster clones that came after?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Napster was audio only.

It was file type specific and had a soft file side limit, but that's easy enough to work around.

Did you mean limewire, or kazaa, or one of the many napster clones that came after?

They all had it as well, yes

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 10 points 3 days ago

... and then all that will be left will be .onion sites

[–] MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Heh. I’m in Ontario, but I guess my DNS is outta Quebec…so most of my banner/insert advertising is in French. It’s fucking awesome because I have no idea what they’re saying or advertising to me most of the time. Highly recommend.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is there a French version of /c/ich_iel?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I can only assume it would be something like !moi_evv if it existed.

[–] phed@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] root@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

States are also considering banning VPNs now as well. This will never work and is a horrible idea, but it’s being considered.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

States are also considering banning VPNs now as well.

Well, some legislators have proposed taking wack-a-mole to the next level and demanding all VPNs be certified and regulated. But good luck getting that passed through the Silicon Valley Presidency or the Ancap Courts.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would count on them being hypocritical. The rich will just use Starlink.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

StarLink connections still exit on the ground, sometimes in a different state. You could gain access or get denied pron based on where your ground IP ends up.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah then Elon can blackmail them instead of someone else

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

As a watcher from the outside:

It might not be fun to hear but vpn is neither the solution to government oppression nor a solution against tracking (recently there was a good article regarding that) so all you do is pay more.

Welp, now I’m off to XHamster. Thank a ton >B|

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah I barely can bring myself to give like Fidelity or Charles Schwab photos of my ID, just even having a digital image of my ID on my computer feels wrong lol

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

I just went through fun trying to explain to a company that my company is a contractor for why I wouldn't be scanning my passport and emailing it to them.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ironically? If we were a less prudish society this genuinely wouldn't matter.

"Oh no! Sarah likes threesome porn. Uhm... okay?"

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s the main reason folks are concerned about having their government IDs stolen.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, people already browse porn with zero privacy precautions, so linking their fetishes to them would be trivial. The main concern is having yet another privacy vulnerability vector for identity theft.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

And there are so many of those these days that a new one genuinely doesn't matter.

If you haven't been offered a free year of identity theft insurance recently? Some company/org is plugging their ears.

SSNs are a fundamentally broken system (look it up). Photo IDs? I will guarantee you that if you go to ANY city there is someone at the DMV who will look up whatever you want for fifty bucks. The ONLY reason credit card fraud is less massive than it is (and it is MASSIVE) is because the CC companies put in the effort to monitor that and lock it down.

EVERYONE should have their credit records locked unless they are actively applying for something.


No. the issue with these is that we live in an increasingly christofacist society where even looking at porn makes you Unclean. And if you look at the wrong porn? Off to the reeducation camps with you!

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Um, having direct access to pull my government photo ID is a huge deal. Lots of online services require photo ID or other more in-depth verification to pull loans and stuff. So yes, this new vector IS a serious concern.

And paying someone $50 at any DMV? C'mon, man, that sounds like some unfounded bullshit. Hardly anyone is going to risk a cushy government job with solid benefits and great hours for fucking $50, let alone the potential risk of going to jail.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

You're living in a movie.

It's not really about the porn in the first place (for advertisers it is - they hate sex unless it's selling their product). The porn is merely an avenue to attack another minority group. In this case, LGBTQ people. Make everything about them sexual in some way, and then ban them from life for sexual deviancy.

[–] Kcap@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oui Oui, on my face...