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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Remember Democrats, if he's the Democrat option come election time it's TOO LATE TO bitch!!

Fucking primaries!! They matter they are the only real choice! Organize, cavas suppot real progressives!

But once the national election comes up, I better not hear any fucking bitching, and you better line up becuase 4 years of president Vance is going to kick you in the nuts.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I'm forced to vote for this asshole I'm going to bitch the entire time.

Why? Because it's bullshit and I'm allowed to.

Fuck the Democratic Party.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Gavin Newsom takes money from AIPAC and knows he can't justify it, and has expressed support for Zionist Israel. Just like Holocaust Harris, I will not vote for anyone who supports genocide. If signing my name to greenlight genocide is the cost of "democracy" (actually oligarchy with some publicly-funded democracy theater), then the price is too high and I refuse.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't like him, he's just another Republican-lite establishment Democrat, like Obama, or the Clintons. He used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, before she became Don Jr's concubine (Now she's in exile as the Greek Ambassador, to shut her up), so he must be tolerant enough of MAGA nonsense to marry one.

I'm so sick of these people claiming to be our saviors every four years, and when they get in, they spend ALL their efforts appeasing corrupt pedophile traitors, even when they have the power to crush them.

We've seen what MAGA is capable of, and what they want in the future. When the power flips, we have to fight fire with fire, and ruthlessly purge MAGA from our government and our society, and I doubt Newsome is the guy for the job. He's just another water-carrier for the Sociopathic Oligarchs, which California has lots of.

But if he's the nominee, then that's who I'll vote for over ANY MAGA.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Get used to it. I'm in my mid 40s and the Democrats have been this my entire fucking life.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Remember Democrats, if he's the Democrat option come election time it's TOO LATE TO bitch!!

And that's why I'm not a Democrat.

Jesus Christ, if you think Presidential primaries matter, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. If the Democratic primaries weren't rigged to hell and back Bernie would have finished his second term last January. And if Democrats had been allowed to have a primary in 2024 Newsom would probably be president now.

If you want us to believe that your primaries are an opportunity for actual choice, maybe you shouldn't have appointed a 2024 Presidential candidate who never, in her entire life, won a single fucking primary.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

There were no primaries in 2024....

Again, you can rage like a lunatic and do nothing productive, or get involved and do to the Democratic party what the tea party did to the Republican party.

So it's absolutely possible, but just bitching about the system ain't it.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Tea Party still had the backing of capitalists. If you try moving the Democrat party meaningfully left, you will not have that.

[–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

It’s currently working with recent events progressive primarying efforts, but not from actually getting centrist corporate Dems from shifting left.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

There were no primaries in 2024....

That's the fucking point.

Don't tell me I can fight the billionaire masters of the Democratic Party in the primaries when those billionaire masters canceled the primaries just last year.

We need a new progressive movement, not just to outcompete the failed Democrats, but to move this country away from a broken system of electoral politics that lets us "choose" between two oligarchs from the Epstein caste and calls it democracy. We don't need progressives banging their heads against a billionaire funded wall and lending credibility to a rigged primary process through their participation.

[–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

There wasn’t a lot of time for a primary to be fair. A primary would have happened if Biden stuck to his word and stayed a one term candidate.

Progressives winning primaries through Ranked Choice Voting would be huge. At the least it would give us voters a real clue about how close we are to getting progressives in power instead of just the incumbents.

Luckily, the Democratic Party has recently supported the idea of using Ranked Choice Voting for primaries.

A new party can’t get off the ground if the entire voting system moved to Ranked Choice voting. Which can happen on a state by state basis and has already happened in Alaska and Maine.

[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

If the Democratic primaries weren’t rigged to hell and back Bernie would have finished his second term last January.

Which the courts said was within their legal right, so you can absolutely expect them to do it again.