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Progressives and radicals are always ahead of the Liberals, so the Liberals shouldn't get credit for simply eventually giving way to the ideas of other ideologies.
There's a plethora of progressive ideas that Liberals still refuse to give into. Universal Education, Healthcare, Four day week, Modern Monetary Theory, Free Public Transport, the end of the prison system, community based policing, addiction as a health problem.
Plenty of Liberals still rallying against progressive and radical ideas... Some of which will be deemed Liberal ideas once they become accepted.
These terms aren't so cut and dried in actual usage. In 2008 nearly every young person I knew would've self identified as a liberal and they supported the vast majority of everything you just claimed them to be objectively against.
Maybe young people of that era were just served well enough by "the left" in general that the smaller divisions didn't matter as much.
Today Liberal yoo often means selling you Economic Liberalism under the cover of Social Liberalism. So now we need to know the differences, and have terms like Progressive, Social Democrat, Anarchist, Socialist... The Liberals today are too often cutouts for Capitalism and the free market.
At the same time, radicals are not the reason why broad change happens. There’s little value in being the first to have an idea. Making it real is the thy g.