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Throw it on the pile? I guess?

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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 51 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

That's why I say we have to either split the union and all be separate (free to join into smaller groups), or we just rewrite the constitution and remake the government from the ground up.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

We have to do the latter regardless because we've proven the current ones are fundamentally broken and all it took was to act in bad faith. Literally all of this because there's intentionally no system in place to account for bad faith or no confidence.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

That is actually the exact purpose of the second amendment. So that we the people can replace a government that no longer works for the people of the country.

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 20 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I don't think the second option is viable.

You have whole states loving the pedo unconditionally. And they would need to sign a constitution that specifically bars them to try and summon a new trump.

They simply won't sign it. So you better start thinking as separate states that join to stay relevant and hope the red union that will shortly after form doesn't have imperialist aspirations. Otherwise you'll be in for a second civil war.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The only state that has a separate electrical grid is Texas, and it sucks.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

They are in the process of connecting to the national grid actually. I guess they could just disconnect it again

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

But the economics in the red states would lead to such bad living conditions that people would move, and then the spiral of no money, and no people to fight a war would lead to a very one sided victory.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

The economics of the red states will pale in comparison to the question of where the weapons end up. There are a lot of nuclear weapons in deep red areas.

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What you say is true, but everybody has lost the game if nukes are used. Their states wont be inhabitable either.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 1 points 3 hours ago

It's more about the threat, isn't it? If the other side believes you might be suicidally crazy, they might not want to fight the war, even if otherwise it would be a one sided victory.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Fortunately the chance of those yokels actually figuring out how to use one is pretty much zero. They're complicated.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 1 points 3 hours ago

Don't discount the ability of people to follow simple directions and manuals. Also, don't discount that there are a large number of otherwise intelligent people who are maga. They have plenty of people who can do calculus, program in an IDE or on a circuit board, and carry on with all the other things you might view as impossible to ever happen at a republican convention. We all have strengths and weaknesses, and few are immune to propaganda. There seem to be a large number of people who have a peculiar weakness to 'simple' logic and strongmen blowing their own horn.

Anyway, without going into the weeds, let's just take a moment and appreciate that there was a very long and large chain of command that carried out the literal listed example of a war crime on pete's orders. There would absolutely be no issue for them to secure the weapons for a red government that told them to do such a thing.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 17 hours ago

Ironic given that the secessionist Free State Project was instrumental in Tump's political career

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Well I would imagine in such a scenario there would be large upheavals in state gov too. But you're right.