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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 50 points 16 hours ago (6 children)

Pro tip for white people, because your colonizer indoctrination has made you blind to this:

No one that gets invaded by anyone ends up better than they started. Yes, that includes all the countries you've invaded too.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 6 points 8 hours ago

As a PoC who grew up in the West the colonizer indoctrination is directed at everyone here, not just white people. We're just more likely to decolonize our mindset due to attachment to communities negatively impacted by colonial institutions.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I generally agree, and I have the same mindset. So you can imagine how surprised I was when my Taiwanese friend told me how much better off Taiwan was after the Japanese occupation. Probably the only Asians with a positive opinion of Japan...

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Their family probably came to Taiwan after the Japanese invasion. 

Japan was notoriously brutal to the indigenous population, but most of the people in Taiwan came there in the civil war. 

In fact, stamping out the indigenous culture has been an ongoing part of the post civil war Taiwanese government, and it's only recently that the Taiwanese language has been allowed to be taught in schools.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago

I guess it's only the case for the Mandarin-speaking population

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, the Japanese occupation of Taiwan ended in 1945, so who knows what you're friend is basing that on.

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago

He said his grandparents told him so

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This completely misses the point and no one thought that.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Most Europeans and Americans believe this.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"If we just invade them and force them to adopt our ideologies for 80 years there will be so much natural progress.

And as payment for our contributions, we can monopolize all their their resources to our private companies where locals will work for near-slavery conditions."

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

You need to talk to some MAGA folk.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, that includes all the countries you’ve invaded too.

Even "women cannot become doctors"-Afghanistan?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago

Yes. Motherfuckering liberals still out here like, "We had to murder hundreds of thousands of your civilians to save you from yourselves," even about a project that (entirely predictably) ended in complete, abject failure and left everyone worse off except oil companies and arms dealers.

It's incredible how much this 1800s colonizer mindset lives on in modern day people.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 5 points 13 hours ago

That is the current reality of Afghanistan, yes? Is this before or after their most recent invasion by the West?

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Maybe the region would not have stalled their progress so much if they weren't invaded during colonization, cold war, and the US oil fetish.

So yes, even "sometimes slightly browner people" Afghanistan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Nice

Has anyone ever said that racism is bad even when it's against white people? Just don't do it to anyone as we're all the same, and such?

Pro tip: just replace any color with a different color. If all of the sudden it sounds offensive to you, then it was offensive to begin with.

I now sincerely wonder how many people will come by to tell me that racism towards white people is fine because a group of white people were assholes, so we all must be assholes

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 11 points 12 hours ago

The worlds tiniest violin has never stopped playing for the white folks subjected to what they think racism looks like.