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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

No, I'm not, because I'm not an American and it isn't our fucking job to fix the thing the rest of us have been telling you for decades was going to happen.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Are there any organizations taking direct action?

People usually don't like throwing their lives away for a 1 off act of rebellion.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As individuals, I think the best course of action is to build a movement behind a common goal. Talk to the people around you. Talk to people online. Break up infighting and bring people together on their common grounds. When the movement becomes big enough, then everyone rebels simultaneously. One person rebelling is one life thrown away for no gains and one less person in the movement. Everyone rebelling together is what leads to real change.

Are there any organizations taking direct action?

That's you. Organize and talk to others. You will eventually find others also organizing towards the same goal. Merge your efforts and you have a larger organization. Rinse and repeat.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The reason so many rich are financing these Neoliberal organizations to take charge is because they will never tell us to perform the necessary action to redistribute their wealth.

So we can organize under the Neoliberals or get fucked...

It's called controlled opposition

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

So we can organize under the Neoliberals or get fucked...

It's not one or the other. You can organize independently of the neoliberals.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

And how much of a chance does that give independent grassroots organizations that don't receive money from billionaires?

You know it's more difficult to go to two different protest events on the few days, you just don't support the things that are necessary to enact change because you are a good serf.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

how much of a chance

A non-zero chance. If you have a better idea, I'm all ears. The only alternative I'm hearing is to give up, and that guarantees your chances to be zero.

You know it's more difficult to go to two different protest events on the few days, you just don't support the things that are necessary to enact change because you are a good serf.

Protesting is just one of many ways of building the movement. A protest tells you that there are others ready to take action. It creates conversation and an opening to talk to the people around you about it. Being at the protests is always good, but it's not the only way to help a movement.

I'm not sure if I understood what you were saying. Regardless, I think my response makes sense for at least two possible interpretations of it.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -3 points 1 day ago

You could not even google it -- like .. how ... What did they do to you guys..?

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's usually one or two people actually, but they don't usually help their cause as much as they'd like to. That guy who missed Trump didn't help anyone do anything except make trump almost a martyr. I had a friend who told me that he knew Trump would win after that. While I don't think in absolutes and wasn't as sure as him (and this was not a maga guy of the rails, this is a calm man who had more to lose than me) he was right that trump did win. Most people who assassinate a president or candidate don't get the change they want.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -3 points 1 day ago

They are always mentally ill. Of course they don't. When you are over that edge it's clear that there isn't a whole lot of reality and humanity left in a person. Any murderer that has been analyzed or recovered explicitly mentions overriding critical thought to be able to do those deeds.

[–] sexybenfranklin@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah... Like, I agree a lot of the liberal "resistance" is useless but also every time I see a leftist online advocating for revolution, I'm wondering when they're gonna kick it off.

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People who are actively working for change in concrete ways don't often call attention to themselves by posting about it on public social media. If nobody in power is working to silence you, you're probably participating in controlled opposition and not much else.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How incredibly convenient. Or paranoid.

[–] BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It ain’t gonna happen until a critical mass of the population has nothing left to lose. As it stands now, revolution sounds great to me, but getting arrested or killed leaves my family impoverished and possibly homeless. Being a cog in the machine is a preferable fate

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Civil-War/Rebellions/Revolution's are massively deadly and don't frequently resolve in the revolutionaries favor. Sometimes someone worse comes along to fill the vacuum, sometimes the state just gets to justify clamping down harder if it wins.

[–] Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago

Dude... why you gotta call me out like that? I was perfectly content being an online slacktivist, griping about shit I'm not actually going to do anything about and now you've ruined it 😠