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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m with her. It’s like people have never learned that developed nations experience a declining birthrate and need to supplement it with immigration or there will not be enough workers for the jobs, enough young people to look after the old people. Immigration literally sustains us. This is why we keep allowing it, even playing fast and loose with the rules. The rules are fucking stupid. Fighting for them is beyond stupid.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but there are lots of other reasons to support immigration as well. The US is one of the countries that historically has significant benefits from immigrants. It’s one of our founding ethos and has always helped drive our economy, our innovation, our culture.

While i while-heartedly agree that declining birth rates are another reason to encourage more immigration, we need to keep in mind that it’s temporary. In a world of decline my birth rates, we’ll see dwindling numbers and more competition for them.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

You’re right that the economic utilitarian argument for immigration is not the only one. It’s just one that I would expect any rational conservative to actually care about if they understood it. Other arguments, like our moral obligation to provide asylum to folks fleeing terrible circumstances… I don’t expect them to care about that one.