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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Is it ok to be against immigration that lets people be exploited, such as h1-b without sufficient enforcement, or undocumented aliens where the person is at risk but the employer is not. We can fix it by better support of employee rights regardless of immigration status

[–] lovely_reader@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I think that means you're against exploitation, not immigration...

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How is H1B people exploitation? All of my colleagues at the same position as me (a US citizen) make the same amount of money.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

can be. People do choose and do benefit but

  • artificially lowers wages. Supposed to be skills you can’t find but usually just cheaper pay
  • employee has to leave the country if they lose their job.
  • some employers will leverage that to exploit their situation with the employee

Clearly it’s not like undocumented aliens but it can still be exploitive and it’s something I think more people here are familiar with.

There may be millions of exploited undocumented aliens in jobs like construction and farm work that I’ll never meet. I know they exist but may never have direct experience. While work visas are less of an issue they are still an issue and throughout fields like technology where I’m assuming more lemmings are likely to meet them

[–] E_coli42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They can't get lower wages though. It is required by the department of labor. Have you ever talked to someone on H1-B? It makes sense that they have to leave the country if they lose their job. It makes no sense to live in a country with a work visa if you aren't working.

Even if it was exploitative, how is that a good case for "to be against immigration that lets people be exploited"? That should be a good case for making it less exploitative. Not stopping immigration just for more American jobs to go overseas.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, I’ve known many people on H1-B, including fighting for a few to be paid decently. Legally they aren’t supposed to be paid less but realistically many are, even at “good” employers. All it takes is categorizing them differently than someone else doing the same work.

While it makes sense that a work visa expires if you’re not working for a sponsoring company, it doesn’t have to be so disruptive to life. The expiration is way shorter than typical time to find another job - was it 30 days? Plus what about families? Is it reasonable to make a kid, say, leave school, leave friends, leave the only country they’ve ever known, with almost no notice? While you may claim that was the parents decision, what’s the alternative? Would you really ask them to give up their family to work in the us?

I’ve know people on H1-B ….

  • who left family behind and only saw them once per year
  • who put up with abusive employers just so their kid could complete the school year
  • who’ve had to consider leaving their children with family so the could stay in the only country they’ve ever known
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

It's also something they willingly apply for and clearly want. OP is acting like they're forced into it.