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Having worked on local issues such as homelessness I can tell you that it is not a both sides issue much like most politics in the US. You have the progressives that are using evidence and best practices to deal with problems and you have conservatives who just want them out of the community.
That is why you are so funny to me, because you lack any real world experience and you think all sides are the same.
right, my years of working in non-profits and in housing policy clearly mean i'm an ignorant fool. and some internet tough guy slinging insults is clearly smarter than me.
progressives shoot themselves in the foot constantly due to their lack of being unable to acknowledge the harshness of reality. they ignore evidence all the time because they are paranoid of being labeled racist or looking bad. they care more about the optics of pretending to care than they do about pragmatic solutions to social problems. and they overwhelming don't support effective policies because those policies when the policies don't fit their narrative that all human beings wonderful and good by default. they lack the balls to make hard choices in a world with finite resources and often just throw up their hands that make a choice that might upset someone, because they'd rather homeless people starve on the streets than their housing values drop slightly by allowing a homeless shelter to expand their bed capacity.
I am glad to hear you have spent a lot of time working with nonprofits. Giving your time to organizations trying to help is admirable for sure.
First, progressive are the only ones who acknowledge the harsh reality which is why they are for things like harm reduction. Housing first, a very successful progressive housing program, challenges misconceptions about homelessness and has already proven itself effective.
Second, I have not seen any evidence in my lifetime that proves racism is right. In fact, progressives don't have to worry about any evidence that would make them look racist because there is none. Race itself is a societal construct with no science backing at all.
Third, Progressives care about measurable results. That is the point, to improve things through change. That is why a homeless programs will be evaluated for effectiveness with multiple metrics. Often times you find out something is not working so you change it and evaluate it again.
Your view of progressives is driven by feelings and not facts. I think ultimately you have just constructed a boogeyman to keep yourself from realizing the conservatives are the problem by both siding and using human nature as a convenient scapegoat.
I suppose you might think progressive=neo liberals. Neo liberals are certainly no friend to the homeless. They, just like the conservatives, use homelessness as punishment.
you are just 'team progressive' no matter what? you are progressive, you are good, therefore they are the 'good guys'.
what you don't get is all the things you are cliaming also apply to conservatives. you just don't see it that way because the are the 'bad guys'.
no, i think progressives are people. just like i think everyone people. we all suffer from the same cognitive fallacies and false beliefs. especially the false beliefe that there are 'good guys' and 'bad guys' and you are one or the other.
Progressive are for social change conservatives are for the status quo. If you don't understand words or definitions because you choose to be ignorant that is on you.
You don't know what a conservative is and no, those thing don't apply to a conservative.
As I said before, you use human nature as a crux for you argument. You have constructed an alternative reality where everyone is the same so nothing matters.
The criminal is no different than the officer. The pedophile is no different than the child they are molesting. I am sorry, but your opinion is just fucking stupid and you should be ashamed to waste our time with it.
i don't care what people say they are for.i care about how they treat other people and what they do.
a lot of progressives are against change when it impacts them. they are anti-racist, but are glad to call the police on a black person smoking a joint in the park. literally something that happens on a monthly basis in my 'progressive' city.
you don't see to think there is a difference between people's words and their actions. if i molest a child and call claim i'm not a pedophile, i'm good, right? what if i'm a call myself progressive while molesting the child? lots of pedophiles regard themselves as progressives, does that mean they are noble and good people? because the status quo is that child molestation is a crime and wrong... so clearly if we are against that status quo it is progressive!
Progressives are not against change when it impacts them. That is once again a conservative.
Progressives are the ones who fought to legalize weed. Why would someone fight to legalize and then call the cops on someone because they are black!?
I am not the one who thinks everyone is the same. I see the difference between action and inaction. Progressives change things for the better through observation, intervention, and evaluation.
A progressive doesn't want to just lock up a pedophile, they want them treated. They want to stop the cycle not just imprison them.
You can claim to be Jesus fucking Christ when you molest a child, that doesn't make it true. I find your example rather distasteful.
Most child molesters are conservative and heterosexual. If a child molester is for making things better through change they are bad because they are a child molesters, not because they want to make things better.
The fact that you try to paint progressives as child molesters just supports that you are clueless and grasping at straws at this point.
So is everyone who is progressive now conservative?
Or it's only on certain issues. If I'm for weed, but against immigration, am I progressive or conservative?
No, conservatives want things to stay the same. They like hierarchical rigid societal structures.
I suppose you could consider yourself to be progressive on marijuana and conservative on on immigration issues. Unless you are a progressive on all issues you are not really a progressive though. You would be a conservative that is okay with weed.
I don't police other people's politics. I mostly am interested in what they do and how they vote. Words are cheap, and policing other people is fucking weird and egotistical no matter if it's done by progressives or conservatives. And they both seem to LOVE telling other people how to live their lives and how wrong and horrible they are for not agreeing with the hypocritical nonsense they spout they don't practice themselves.
I voted for weed legalization, but i don't smoke. I am against public weed smoking because it's gross like public cigarette smoking. But I don't care if people smoke in their car and homes. I also vote for candidates that want immigration reform, but I am not for open borders and i think immigration should be reasonable restricted and borders should be enforced. But I also have felt that way about immigration for 20 years and I don't grand stand about it just because of what is going on with ICE abuses currently. ICE should be doing their job quietly like they did under Obama, while reasonable reforms would include paths to residency, but not whole sale amnesty for all existing residents. I also have known several immigrants and many of them are deeply anti-immigrant and are 100% on board with what Trump/ICE is doing, they aren't a liberal progressive monolith, and liberal leftist views about immigrants and immigration tend to be vastly oversimplified and condescending. Also, most immigrants are conservative, not liberal. So if you want open immigration... those immigrants are often the ones will will vote against your your side. That's kind of ironic, isn't it?
I also notice people who claim they are against 'rigid structures' at the ones who happen to adhere to them in their personal lives. Like poly people, who claim they are alternative and anti hierarchy but always almost always have a massive and rigid power differential in their relationship structures. It's almost as if they bullshit phrases like that to cover up their hypocrisy of their practices. A lot like Trump.