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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It is right. Ayaya, poor Greta will suffer in this life when she could be living large and easy in Northern Europe but, if my religious beliefs are true, she will be rewarded for it in the next one. Personally, I'm too cowardly and selfish to do any of the things Greta has been up to.

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why would you be cowardly if you knew you were going to be rewarded with paradise?

That's what I don't understand about theists. It just sounds to me like you're not sold on your belief system.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you think that people who believe in God KNOW?! It's belief in the unseen, my guy, a leap of faith INTO faith which takes both effort and courage, and an Israeli missile/bullets don't require that and trigger your survival instincts. You're understanding things in a very intellectually limited "black and white" way, detached from the human experience and all notions of epistemology...

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 13 hours ago

It's true, I haven't delved very deeply into the musings of most works of fiction.

You say you have faith in your belief system, but you don't have that much faith if you're worried about dying.

[–] blackris@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, OP is right. A believe is the idea that something is true, even if there is no factual base for it.

It is an act of strength and courage to renounce religion, rather than to delve deeper into that madness.

Admitting a person lied to themselves is really hard. Look at all the motherfuckers who killed themselves and others for some god. They are the cowards.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Even morality cannot just be reasoned into, since moral "shoulds" don't follow from factual "ares" (check Hume's fork, or the "is-ought" problem, for an easy explanation). Every belief of these natures is something you either take or not. And "religion" is doing a lot of work here and is inappropriate. I understand dismissing many belief sets and ideologies because they contradict either reality or your own moral codes, and I also understand having a bad after taste for all beliefs because of a negative experience with one (I felt this way myself for about two decades!), but the latter simply doesn't follow logically. And to each their own, of course.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is an interesting schtick.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For better or for worse I do post here in full honesty, and if you knew me IRL you'd understand I am indeed a very yappy religious man, lol.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago
[–] runblack@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I might have met you in Rotterdam.

No, I think you met another annoying monotheist. 😅