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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

including extrajudicial killings

Oh, you mean fighting back against non-state actors such as Al-Qaida that were actively waging war against the people of the US? Yeah, he should have just done a Schumer and written them a strongly-worded letter.

I'm far from an Obama fan, but I really get sick of repetition of keyword-based bothsides memes with no thought behind them.

Military action against non-state actors is almost as old as the US, with the first instance being the use of the navy against the Barbary pirates. And no form of military action has ever had a judicial process behind it. But I guess someone just learned the phrase "extrajudicial killing" and didn't bother to try contextualizing it.

And why is it always used in the context of Obama, when he generally showed more restraint than most of his predecessors and successors?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Obama was the first to use drone strikes to kill an American citizen without due process, and claimed that judicial process wasn’t needed since he was on foreign soil. You can read more about the al-Awlaki killing here if you want, this article lays out the case for how Obama escalated beyond what even GW did in the initial years of the war on terror for abusing the executive power to murder perceived political dissidents who were American citizens.

In the lead up to this, I believe what you’re referring to is the infamous wedding party strike. Dozens of Afghani civilians slaughtered while attending a wedding, because the US claimed there were Taliban insurgents present. Gee, where have we seen that line of reasoning in recent times? Oh yeah, similar excuse Netanyahu has used to completely level Gaza with the help of America. I’m not saying Obama was necessarily genocidal, but I also strongly rebuke his legal argument for these drone strikes resulting in extrajudicial killings as I believe it set a terrible precedent which we are suffering from at home today.