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Democratic support for a potential deal to reopen the government has crumbled because of deep mistrust among Senate Democrats over whether they can trust Trump to act in good faith to extend health insurance subsidies or to stop firing federal workers.

Senate Democrats on Thursday rejected an emerging proposal to reopen the government that would have linked a stopgap funding bill known as a continuing resolution to three full-year appropriations bills funding military construction, veterans’ affairs, the Department of Agriculture and the legislative branch.

Democratic senators discussed the proposal at lunch and concluded that it did not include strong enough assurances that Trump and the Republican-controlled House would renew enhanced health insurance subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) that are due to expire in January.

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 99 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Weird that the lyingest liar of all liars, the treasonous, traitorous, rapist felon is sus!

[–] sepi@piefed.social 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Even cave troll MTG doesn't like him

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's been surreal to hear her speak at length and agree with almost everything she's saying.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Only because Diaper Don wouldn't let her run for Senate. She's just lashing out because she's butthurt

[–] sepi@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

I don't care why. Doesn't matter to the infighting.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 72 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good! You can't trust him, or republicans!

"Give us what we want now and you'll get what you want later, maybe" is exactly the kind of illusory compromise the democrats usually fall for - are they actually finally learning?

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Fool me once shame on you. Fool me 100 times... We won't get fooled again

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Democratic support for a potential deal to reopen the government has crumbled because of deep mistrust among Senate Democrats over whether they can trust Trump to act in good faith to extend health insurance subsidies or to stop firing federal workers.

The answer to that question is always NO. It's always Cash Up Front with Trump. You never trust him to keep his word. Ever.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Unless you've got his balls in a tiny little pouch locked in a safe, he's not to be trusted.

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Why get a guarantee to work later? Work fucking now and get it done now you numbskulls.

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

What more do you sick leftists want? They have ideas of a plan!! 1! How can you not trust somebody like that????

[–] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

It will be ready in 2 weeks

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

THIS might be the biggest astroturf I've ever seen. The point, as always, is that every accusation is a confession. This one is behind a thin veil where they pretend to be left, but their actual intent is to water down the "Concepts of a plan" quote, which was from a Republican in a debate on the topic of healthcare. Was it Trump?

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I meant to make fun of the MAGA idiots, just to be clear. I had hoped the amount of excessive question marks is indicator enough for my sarcasm. But I can understand that sadly there people as deluded as my joke on the internet, so it's all good.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago

Lol this dork

[–] Ancalagon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 months ago

Power that is not excercised is not power. And something similar can be said about leverage.

When you've got a winning hand, don't fucking fold.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 months ago

Nope. The government reopens AFTER demands are met, not before.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

It's good to see that the opposition party is finally doing some opposing and clearly recognizing that the other side isn't acting in good faith and will never act in good faith. The government shut down harms everyone, but it is tough medicine that is necessary to avoid the constant steamrollering that has happened again and again in the past. Sometimes you have to stand up and fight, even if it means taking a few bruises.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

If you can't sign a deal now why the fuck would we trust you to sign it later without our leverage

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Republicans don’t negotiate, they lie. Never negotiate with liars.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 31 points 4 months ago

They should not give 3 years guaranteed funding to military construction and the legislative branch with the current unapologetic criminals currently in office, and I daresay ever again.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"We don't negotiate with terrorists."

unless you're Raegan, then you sell cocaine to give terrorists whatever missiles they ask for.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

What is this? Establishment Dems exercising basic pattern recognition for once?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 16 points 4 months ago

Fine! Trump will PINKY SWEAR next Time so Schumer and Jeffreies can END THE REPUBLICAN SHUTDOWN!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 14 points 4 months ago

You know he won't. Bad Faith is his middle-fucking name.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Act on good faith... The fuck! Even if it's in writing he ignores it. Why would anyone negotiate with him or his party while they are in power. They showed their hand.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Dude needs to be permanently removed from the board.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

The Board, for the game of Life.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Let this be a a lesson to Republicans! No-one fools a Democrat 3456 times! 3455 is the number they'll finally learn to not fall for your bullshit!

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, it falters over the Republicans' incompetence and lack of a coherent approach to governing.

Only an idiot would trust Trump to do anything but be the lying, corrupt, treasonous piece of shit that he always is.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago
[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Such a shit sandwich. Cannot trust Repugnants, nor Trump to do anything they "agree" upon.