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“We are talking about a coordinated effort of eight senators, with the knowledge of Leader Schumer, voting to break with the entire Democratic Party,” said the New York Democrat.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 159 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm grateful for the fact that she's as popular as she is with her constituents, because I am damned sure that there are plenty within the Dems who would like to see her gone for shining a light on the fact that they're still mostly greedy, capitalist cunts

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of the party are spineless neoliberal capitalist bootlickers. Our democracy needs a major overhaul. It's obvious it pools too much power in too few hands.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It won't change. Money Controls our media and the media sways people's votes. Media is not just the regular news anymore, people are watching influencers, on social media and believing the paid fake shit they saying. We need laws about mass information that lies.

[–] CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ. You were the genius telling peasants the king would always be in charge. Grow a spine.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean they're not wrong about needing laws against spreading mass misinformation/disinformation though. Allowing Fox to keep spreading lies under the guise of "entertainment" while holding the name Fox news is an egregious act of propagandic bullshit.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While this is right on...one thing:

Incompetence that invincible, probably, is malice.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, it's totally because they're busy looking out for themselves, not the people they're supposed to serve

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Totally because they are looking out for the billionaires, the people they are supposed to serve

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

And that's what gives (me) hope.
Were all as bleak as the rest, I'd hope for a hit by a meteor of the mass extinction event type.
...but there still is hope for change.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 89 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

We didn't just get nothing, we lost ACA subsidies and hemp products. It was 40+ days that gave republicans a platform to blame Dems, and then they got a royal flush when 12 Democrats across Congress ate a shit sandwich for fun.

My expectations were low, but somehow establishment Democrats proved that they aren't just worthless, but a liability.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also,

According to the bill text, senators may seek up to $500,000 in statutory damages if their phone records are subpoenaed without their knowledge. 

The language is inside one of the three full-year spending bills that the Senate included in its government funding package.

"Any Senator whose Senate data, or the Senate data of whose Senate office, has been acquired, subpoenaed, searched, accessed, or disclosed in violation of this section may bring a civil action against the United States if the violation was committed by an officer, employee, or agent of the United States or of any Federal department or agency," the bill reads.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/provision-government-funding-bill-allows-senators-sue-secretly/story?id=127429007

So 8 Senators who had their phone records subpoenaed as part of the Jan 6 investigation get a $500,000+ payout.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It thought I read that it was on a per subpoena basis, so in reality it's 1,000,000+ per senator.

I try to not think to deep into this shit because that implies there's something other that nefarious intentions, but I don't understand how this can possibly be legal or even feasible. Like, there's a lot of heinous shit that Republicans have done on a consistent basis, but to somehow write payouts like this into a bill and then, that's just it, is mind boggling. I hope they all choke on their tongues and die in fear.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I've read similar that it is per subpoena, but I haven't found an article with a more detailed analysis yet.

Now technically in the article I linked Speaker Johnson says he'll hold a vote to remove that clause, but even if he's being genuine I'm guessing it won't pass in the Senate or will be vetoed by Trump.

The whole this just kicking someone (the United States) while they're down. Longest shutdown. SNAP benefits halted. ACA subsidies expired. Hemp outlawed. Senator payouts... And this current "victory" only lasts until the end of January. Just long enough for the wounds to start healing before we all get kicked down again.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How many times do the Democrats need to twist and contort and go waaaaay out of their way to steal defeat from the jaws of victory for it to form a clear composite picture of collaboration?

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't see the loss of hemp products... What was that?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It was a provision included in the bill by none other than that ghoul McConnell. I don't have a good link to share, but a search for "block on hemp products" yields some relevant articles.

Effectively it will ban THC derivatives, CBD, and other hemp based products. I'm seeing numbers like 95% of the hemp industry would fucked.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Absolutely wild choice by McConnell, considering one of the only things Kentucky has a better reputation for than being backwater is growing hemp/weed

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Also booze, probably the largest competitor of THC.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 82 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

So disappointing. She only notes when she could have slams.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She considered eviscerating but was skewered.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

Dr Mantis Toboggan

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Not a single rips or shreds in sight.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

She should have Luigi'd but instead she went with media statement.

That’s because she’s too right and she’s taking it easy on the elite democrats.

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[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It was 100% about EBT for Thanksgiving. The Dems still don't realize that The political games of the past aren't working anymore against an opponent who has no agenda beyond punishing his political rivals.

Trump wants to destroy anything that he even thinks is left leaning. He doesn't give a shit about renewable energy but democrats do therefore wind turbines are his enemy.

College educated people are less likely to vote republican therefore all universities are his enemy.

I'll bet he doesn't even understand the concept of fascism or even what a dictator is. All he cares about is hearing "yes". All he wants is the obsequiousness he sees other leaders get.

Never forget that at his core he is a barely literate diaper wearing spoiled brat with a room temperature IQ. The day he leaves will become a national holiday.

[–] lando55@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago

I'll bet he doesn't even understand the concept of fascism or even what a dictator is.

Maybe he's born with it.

Maybe it's Mussolini.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

He does know what a dictator is - he promised he'd be one on day one. Once of the few promises he's kept.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

Plus the only book we know he's probably read is a book of Hitler's speeches.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

Their agenda is to destroy the entire administrative state. They want a US that is from before FDR.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

She needs to be so much more aggressive we right now, be out for blood.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

THE PROGRESSIVES NEED TO MAKE ANOTHER PARTY.

The DNC has proven they will capitulate to Republicans to maintain the status quo every single time.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So call for him to resign?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Turns out it doesn’t usually work like that.

You can cut his tie off with scissors too, but that also won’t change things until midterms. Might be fun tho.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't look into it with any depth, but I kind of feel recall elections should be possible especially for US Senators.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They're not. It's absolutely something that should have been implemented, but there just isn't any mechanism for legally ousting sitting Senators other than them being indicted on criminal charges. Otherwise Fetterman would have been gone ages ago and would never have been able to participate in this farcical "deal".

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Senators can be expelled if 67 of them vote for it, but that's about it. Which means if the Republicans ever got 67 Senators, there would never be a Democrat or Independent in there again.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

It got some assholes some air-time. I would like to thank Kaine for making Hillary's loss years ago easier to swallow. "How could she lose to-- oh, now I 'member."

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