Thats... Thats like a flat earther in computer stuff.
Do those really exist??
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I know it gets thrown around a lot, but the Dunning-Kruger effect is real and applicable to people in all fields.
No matter how fanboi-y a Linux or Apple user gets, they can never out fanboi a Microsoft fanboi. They take making shit up about competitors to a entirely new level.
sometimes if you have nothing nice to say to that person, just post rocky horror .gifs. i really wish this site would have a .gif finder though. seriously!
what a great way to create a set of echochambers with schizo worldviews
But once you read his words he's got a foot in the door. Then he's harder to ignore.
So maybe it's harder to ignore fools on social media. Which would make social media a kind of fool-enhancer.
I guess this is where blocking comes in. But that seems drastic.
Blocking is severe, but boy is my feed clean of morons (I think I've only blocked like 30 people on Lemmy).
You gotta try it. Very satisfying to click 'read all' on your inbox now and then to clear out notifications for new (hidden) messages from trolls you've blocked.
Lame attempt at ragebait.
Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.
Yeah, he doesn't know what he's talking about. There is a shitload of frontend developers that specialize in web standards and technologies. Electron was developed to take advantage of that deep pool of frontend developers. The side affect, is that other OSes can just support electron and they get the developers and the applications for free. Which has been a major boon for Linux users and those looking to escape Microsoft's vendor lockin strategy. Today might be different, but in the past, nobody was intending to support Linux by creating electron apps. If they cared so much or it was so important, they would have been using Qt and GTK prior to Electron.
What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?
Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.
Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.
i actually don't have a problem with HTML, i just think that instead of every app shipping their own copy of electron, the operating system should provide basic browser functionality.
the operating system should provide basic browser functionalit
Microsoft got literally sued and almost dissolved as a company for that
But that's cause it wasn't FOSS, but instead a privately owned closed-source app
If an open standard was set, and agreed upon by most, then nobody would sue anyone
Heck, many Linux distros come with a browser preinstalled, but use a FOSS one to not hit that legal problem
Yeah, 1998 was definitely a time where Microsoft wasn't going to do that. They were (and are) in embrace, extend, extinguish mode
If anything they've ramped up on the EEE mode
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And what did we get for it? If you search "chrome install" in Edge it pulls a Janet, all like
To be fair... Chrome is a lateral move on Windows. If I were forced to use Windows I'd probably just use edge if I needed a chromium browser lol
that sounds like Tauri!
Linux and Mac use WebkitGTK, Windows uses Edge/Chromium, Android uses Chrome - as bundled in the respective OS, and you essentially have a frontend running on that webview communicating with a backend running locally via some special IPC protocol
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You need to put this in clear [JOKE] tags, otherwise they'll never get it.
Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React
I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.
That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.
Punchable is a bit far, probably wanna tone it down a bit, big guy.
Just kidding, but it's only funny and also is it this guys fault?
I don't even know if it's true, but in any case, the guy who tasked a react (native) developer on the start menu is responsible (not the developer).
Example: If I managed a product and hired a python developer and told them to do x, they would likely use python, right? (In this scenario, It is I the manager wjo failed everyone, not the developer).
Also the other commenter is correct. It's like the common saying "use the right tool for the job". The saying doesn't make sense, because the right tool is always the one you know how to use..
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"I am a react developer"
I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.
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Electron is the only cross platform gui toolkit...
If you ignore QT, GTK and everything else.
I'm so glad that Microsoft makes an awesome cross platfor--- wait, no, but they contribute code to--- hmmm ... Hey, what does Microsoft do to make apps more portable again?
The real reasons often are:
- They want be able to hire much cheaper webdevs instead of software devs.
- Electron has a lot of built-in data collecting metrics, which they urgently need for creating a real-life KITT.
- Easy live embedding of content. Sure you can add your own solution, in fact I created ETML as a solution for this problem for my engine, all without any support for nasty scripting languages or convoluted stylesheets (style-inheritance in CSS turned me off from webdev even more than JS did). At best, it can be used for things like embedding videos on Discord, because no one else thought some universal approach, let alone one that disallows proprietary players. At worst, it's being used for ads.
Also a lot of Windows-only apps are Electron apps, only because the manufacturer wants to go "fuck you", even putting protections into the code just in case you wanted to run it on Linux.
EDIT: Forgot the "live embeds" reason.
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one of the funniest (and sadly accurate) things i've heard said about linux backwards-compatibility is that its most stable API is Win32. you can run really old windows software on wine because they support stuff even windows doesn't anymore.
of course this is because the expectation is that you can just recompile old software to work on new systems, which is not really a thing on window.s
The most stable system is one that is out of support. No updates == No breakage! π
Itβs very amusing to imagine devs carefully watching for an EOL/EOS date and starting to build software only after
I think this is the point of Debian stable, and also why some devs hate Debian stable.
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(Apple as a platform is so closed that it couldn't be influenced by this utter crap and the developers can use the OS native API's.)
A hidden gem of stupidity and nonsense in the already pretty dumb tirade.
Lol scrub
Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?
Probably "Native Linux apps are made in Linux-only bullshit by useless neckbeards, and probably only run in the terminal. Real actual apps like Discord made by a for-profit corporation have to be made cross-platform."
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