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I've seen a depressing trend of Democratic politicians embracing anti trans talking points and compromising gender affirming care for young people. This is extremely concerning as states and the federal government are undermining access to care now more than ever. Democrats standing by trans people has far more dire consequences now than ever, yet we're being treated as politically disposable by people who used to campaign on lgbtq issues like Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg.

I can't say I'm surprised. Liberal papers like the New York Times has been uncritically promoting unscientific transphobia for years that claims alternatives exist to gender affirming care. My guess is that people see a person transitioning as an unfortunate thing, desperately wishing there was another way. They ignore the fact that gender affirming care is both the best treatment for dysphoria, and one of the most successful treatments for any mental condition ever discovered.

To put it simply, making gender affirming care harder to obtain for kids will kill many of them. Kids being kept from care by their parents already drives people to suicide, and a slimy politician preventing supportive parents from helping their kids will do the same. Every time I see people claim these guys are our best shot at beating fascism, I die inside. I have no doubt that they'll eventually axe care for all adults like everyone who was originally "worried about fairness in sports" is currently pushing for. The only way they won't is if we make it a costly issue for them.

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[–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Oh my friend. You haven't figured out that the Democrats are just really "right light" without a backbone?

Would've they been better than Trump? 100% yes. But anything can be better than Trump's Republicans.

There is no real social left movement in the US. Maybe Bernie and AOC get close to it but still quite centrist.

So, the Democrats are the right throwing some social crumbs around but supporting regressive policies. Once people realize that, a real social movement can start.

I've known this for years. What I'm pissed about is liberal asshats who think transphobes are the messiahs who will save their already dead rule of law.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I think its extremely uncommon to say we have to sacrifice trans rights

More commonly some people say trans rights are a fringe issue not necessary to defeat fascism, and slightly less common yo say trans rights were never even on the table.

If you have to pick between an anti-trans dnc and a Republican then you're gonna be voting on some other issue like whether or not to bring back Gulags and if the lower 90% should be able to afford housing or food or healthcare.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 7 months ago

the old guard is trying to avoid another zohran, bernie, aoc, or the minnesota mayor, hence pedalling a republican lite is the best they can do.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 5 points 7 months ago (17 children)

Not only Democratic politicians, I see it here in the Fediverse all the time. People seem to think that the Democrats winning is more important than human rights.

I just don't understood that kind of dogmatic thinking.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (14 children)

Because when the other side is explicitly promising a theocratic fascist dictatorship, you have to pick the lesser evil to even have a chance of things getting better without large scale violence.

A lot of things need to change to get to the point where we're not picking between two evils, but those changes have to start at local and state levels, and it takes time to propagate to the federal level.

Trans rights being side-tabled for a bit is better than them and every other "undesirable" getting sent to concentration camps.

It's not that we're simping for the Democrat leadership, it's that we're smart enough to realize it's currently a binary system and the other option is exponentially worse.

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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You realize the left needs to win for us to have human rights? Your critique makes literally zero sense.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

If the left needs to win, then we can't vote for most democrats.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about the party that isn't able to win, and also doesn't support universal human rights?

Maybe they would have more luck with the former, if they tried the latter.

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[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

"Let's meet in the middle and only oppress people 50%"

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't defeating fascism and standing for trans rights the same thing?

Same with eliminating religion?

These organisations aren't good for human rights. They aren't good for anything or anyone.

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[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

liberals gonna lib but what does the acceptance, or rejection, of science have anything to do with it? Plenty of fascists have had no problem embracing science as a method of political expediency and plenty of leftists have rejected scientific advance as a measure of political progress.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I am very much a supporter of pragmatism and strategic politics towards building unity on the left, even if it means sacrificing some issues in favor of more pressing ones. I hate purity testing and assume most people who engage in it are acting in bad faith. But I completely agree with this. A coalition without respect for basic human rights is just a nonstarter.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 6 points 7 months ago

It's also really weak to point at fascism and say "look they treat some people badly for no reason. On an unrelated note, we are also going to treat some people badly for no reason."

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

New York Times has been uncritically promoting unscientific transphobia for years that claims alternatives exist to gender affirming care

Sources on that?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Ok, look, as long we PINKY PROMISE that we're going to stop at the VERY FIRST one of the "first they came for the..." marginalized groups, you gotta let us murderize JUST THEM and then bada bing, bada boom, fascism is cooked!

Who said that??

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