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To be clear: this isn't the "we stopped paying promised grant money" but is literally the federal government yanking money out of an NYC bank account.

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait a second, the federal government takes money back from New York City, but Trump and Musk are running around cutting every program in site and nobody is talking about refunding the taxpayers? Gtfo…

[–] libertyforever@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They are working on a tax cut bill.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don’t want a tax cut. I wanna reimbursement because the truth is, we authorized our government to spend that money years ago. In some cases like USAID -we authorized the spending of that money decades ago.  if the United States government doesn’t want to spend that money anymore than there should’ve been legislature, but also they don’t get a free check to just spend it on whatever the fuck they want. They should have to pass new legislation before they spend any more taxpayer money on new projects. And since they haven’t passed any new legislation, they should give us our money back. 

if we set the precedence that the government can change, budget funding strategy like this, it would allow the government to raise billions of dollars for one purpose , and then suddenly take that billion dollars, and spend it on something that it wasn’t originally meant for.

Edit;; corrected word precedence. 

[–] libertyforever@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] libertyforever@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We have a huge deficit. A refund might make some sense if we end up with a surplus. We are nowhere near that.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Funny how dems have been able to balance budgets and wind up with a surplus without engaging in wholesale butchery of programs that help and protect people.

You do notice that, don’t you? Things that are being slashed are things that protect you, education, and feed people? Why not advocate for taxing the fuck out of corporations and billionaires instead of engaging in waving in the direction of “the deficit”.

E: even more attacking of services: https://www.commondreams.org/news/house-budget-resolution

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[–] CouncilOfFriends@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

Trump ran budget deficits every year he was president, added trillions to the national debt with a tax giveaway to the wealthiest humans in the history of our planet, and before he was president a second time was trying to make Republicans shut down the government if the debt ceiling wasn't eliminated entirely. Don't hold your breath waiting for those tax cuts to trickle down, or for any cuts to 'defense' which is nearly half of all discretionary spending. The GOP plan is to further increase defense spending by an additional $100 billion, and $1.5 trillion in spending cuts which is not even half of their proposed $4.5 trillion tax cut. They only care about spending cuts when they can dogwhistle and lie to their base about $50 billion going to USAID just for condoms, despite their entire budget for aid to prevent foreign instability amounting to like, 3% of discretionary spending, because they have a very low estimation of their voters' math abilities.

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[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fact that we have a deficit is immaterial to me. Just cause we have debts doesn’t mean the Gov can keep the money AND cut the programs. Rules on the books for new taxes are in place for a reason, if they aren’t going to use the tax money for its intended purpose, give it back…or pull the Senate and House together to authorize the new spending. BTW, they would have to tell us where that new spending is, and I don’t think Trump wants to do that, I think he wants to just keep the money like it’s his own, and loan it out in exchange for favors down the road.

[–] libertyforever@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disagree completely. Not sure how you can say deficit is immaterial. Makes no sense whatsoever.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So, because we have a deficit the President can do whatever they want with our money? Cause thats what Trump/Musk seem to be doing.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's not supposed to be this way either.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (21 children)

That is disingenuous bullshit. The tax cut is for corporations and the wealthy. No one in the middle class or lower will see a drop of tax savings.

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