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Sure you have, it was called Trump's first term.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Well, at least they don't have to worry about "liberals" inflicting horrible thoughts on them via Colbert or Kimmel.

Are they tired of all the winning yet?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 2 hours ago

Complains that Americans are too lazy to milk cows and doesn't realize they are part of that group. Doubt they will learn anything.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Don't worry! Trump will hand them $12 billion like he did last time.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 29 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

MARC ANDEREESON wanted to buy up farm land in Solarno CA, for his "California Forever" private owned town.

Thiel has expressed similar.

Musk has his own corporate town (Starbase, Texas).

Bezos has an area of Malaysia.

Zuck has parts of Hawaii.

Sam Altman invests in a private town in Honduras.

....they ALL want private towns, fifedoms to rule over in America. And by rule over, I mean SETTING THEIR OWN LAWS.

This is happening.

Anyways, I'm sure this story on Trump bankrupting farmers is completely unrelated. I certainly have no evidence it's related. But I think it's concerning (farmers refusing to sell large tracts of America is what held up the "California Forever" project).

You Aren't Allowed in These Billionaire Towns

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 76 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

Despite his troubles, Maxwell remains supportive of Trump, saying that he is “going to be patient,” adding, “I believe in our president.”

However, there is a limit to Maxwell’s patience with Trump. “We’re giving him the chance to follow through with the tariffs, but there had better be results,” he said. “I think we need to be seeing something in 18 months or less. We understand risk—and it had better pay off.”

They're giving him 18 MONTHS?? For fuck sake, these people Do. Not. Learn.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

They didn't learn in his first term. No way they'll learn anything here either. These people are completely fucking stupid and never voted for him based on any kind of intelligence.

[–] Mamdani_Da_Savior@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Hopefully they are thinking of the midterms...if we have elections and the GOP gets whiplashed we just might be able to stop the worst of Trump. Imagine we get say 51 democrats in the sesnate along with a majority in the house that's healthly.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What do they even see as a positive outcome of the tariff shenanigans?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That more Americas will.. uhh... buy tofu, I guess?? Enough to make up for the entire Asia markets?

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 37 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s only 24 months. I bet it won’t even take the whole 36 months. Just a quick and easy definitely less than 48 months.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 hours ago

“He needs a third term…”

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

They didn't recover a large part of their soy bean market during Biden's administration where China picked back up some of the ag products and now they lost all of the market. They're idiots if they think that this will recover any of their markets at any significant part this time around.

Force the farmers to pay back the bailouts back. Hypocrisy needs to carry severe monetary punishments

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 82 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

“So much of what has happened and what’s going on here is totally out of our control,” Meadows said. “We just want a free, fair, and open market where we can sell our goods... as competitively as anybody else around the world. And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.”

The Republican small government, everyone

Why do I feel like these same people would say Biden’s economy was worse for them?

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

“The weather is in the control of a higher power,” he added, “and the economy and the markets are in control of Washington, DC.”

Yep! Nothing at all that could have been done about either of these situations. Just two natural disasters sent by god themself. What a shame.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They learned nothing from his first term where he screwed them over by targeting immigrants and he just dialed that part up and added more.

Absolute morons.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Yeah but imagine voting for a black woman. The dem candidate could have promised them wild subsidies the likes the they never dreamed, but if it was “sleepy joe” or any other minority they disliked they still would have chosen Trump

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

And we do feel that we produce a superior product here in the United States, and we just need to have the markets.

lol. lmao even.

Facts don't care about your feelings bitch!

Is there any american agricultural product that's at least a whole step above dirt?

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

It was in their control. They gave it up by voting against their own interests despite being told loudly

[–] 7112@lemmy.world 57 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The consequences don't just effect one side. Musk now has his own town, Starbase, Texas. Marc Andreeson isn't far behind.

There is no being smug, the precedents will have far reaching effects.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

We can set our own precedents just like we had to with company towns in the 1800s. I heard about a man named Luigi who supposedly created a similar precedent in the modern era.

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

No way of knowing this would happen says people who were told repeatedly what would happen, shown the plan of what would happen, and shown past historical examples of what would happen.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 27 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

They will get bailed out.

The people who vote Republican, and vote trump. They scream and screech about government spending. They complain about helping people with food stamps, free school lunches for kids. They reject Medicare for all and relieving college tuition debts. They vote to give tax decreases to billionaires who have 500 million dollar yachts, multiple hundred millions dollar mansions that sit empty, Lamborghinis that just sit there and never get driven.

They'll get bailed out with tax dollars. And they'll continue being hypocrites until they die.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

They're not against government benefits. They just believe that 90% of the recipients are lying, lazy, liberal commie, transgender, urban criminal freeloaders who just don't want to work. If we could just get rid of all the abusers then the programs would have enough money to pay to the people who really deserve and need it (ie themselves).

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

They've already been bailed out. To the tune of $42B so far this year.

https://www.fb.org/market-intel/disaster-assistance-fuels-2025s-farm-income-rebound?_hsmi=379596581

That's the first step. The next step will be blaming the farmers for not fixing their problem, in whatever nebulous fashion they should have.

When it's the farmer's fault, no more bailouts. That's when AcreTrader will show up.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

They’ve already been bailed out. To the tune of $42B so far this year.

"That's socialism!!" /s

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago

Biggest welfare queens in the world.

Every accusation is a confession from conservatives.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That ain't workin', that's the way you do it

You play the martyr on the Fox TV

That ain't workin', that's the way you do it

Tariffs for nothin, no more sales for me

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

See the little fascist with the hairplugs and the make up Yeah, buddy, not his own hair That little fascist got his own jet airplane That little fascist, he's a millionaire

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

We gotta install a puppet president
Custom court judiciary
We got to move these
Republicans
We gotta move these
Color parties

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Now that ain't workin', that's the way you do it
Lemme tell ya, them guys are dumb

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Get a MAGA tattoo on your little finger

Wear a MAGA diaper on your bum

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 13 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

theres this farmer youtuber who was talking about this. She is like everyones like we never thought he would do this and she is like. You 100% knew he would do this from both his first term and everything he said before winning election.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf, no, everyone criticized the "adults in the room" the first time around, myself included, for not doing anything constructive. We were wrong.

[–] can_you_change_your_username@fedia.io 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

It's not wrong to demand accountability and action from leaders. Part of America's problem is that we don't do that enough.it's been since Obama's first election in 08 since the Democrats have had an open, untainted primary and we've still seen no major shakeups or changes to the leadership, just business as usual. The problem is that we're stuck in a system with only two real choices and there's no real solid way for the average voter to hold the leadership accountable. It's vote for our guy or the guy who's followers are throwing Nazi salutes wins.

We need to focus less on the presidential election and senators. We need to actually have some way of affecting government outside of election years. To my mind the first steps are state level elections and the house. We need to support third party candidates at the local and state level and we need to support things like the interstate compact that would have states cast their electorial votes for whoever wins the national popular vote. We need to focus on changing the electorial system so that proportional representation is used in the house and at the state level and make gerrymandering much more difficult. We need to change to a voting system like STAR which makes the election result better reflect the true will of the voters.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

2020 was an open primary and Im tired of the bullshit saying it wasn't. Bernie lost.

Signed, a Bernie voter.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 hour ago

I fully agree! I just meant we were wrong about them not doing anything to check his worst impulses, but I was about as clear as mud in my conveyance.

Additionally, we have to factor in the sleeper agents, intended and not, bribes, threats, and other sorts of coercion. At the end of the day, everything is a huge risk and calculated gamble, but risks can be mitigated and gambles calculated, but we need to take our time and plan well, lest the losses be greater. In retrospect, that the US colonies of England won their revolution was a freaking miracle, paid for with a lot of personal and collective sacrifice. And heart. And that's the way it's always going to be, if any people collectively or indivually, is ever going to throw off the yoke of their oppressors.

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[–] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago

Maybe don't be a fucking moron and vote for a fucking moron then???

I hope leopards run wild in this country. Maybe a brain cell will rub against another braincell and spark a fucking thought in their tiny little skulls.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 5 points 4 hours ago

Have the day you voted for o7

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Oh also a Democrat farmer's perspective on this white debacle of Republican proportions.

https://youtu.be/badGHJLDpP8

[–] don@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for the link!

lmaoooooo fuck ‘em they shouldn’t have been that fucking stupid and greedy.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Fear not farmers Bill Gates will buy that land off you and you can finally Make America Gates Again.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Or more likely JD Vance himself. He was (is?) invested in AcreTrader, they takeover farm land and turn ownership into share-based investment vehicles.

[–] apenstaartje@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 hour ago

Better than Make America Gaetz Again. All that young soil 🥵

[–] Steve@startrek.website 2 points 3 hours ago

Oopsie poopsie

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