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Please note this does not mean the USSR wasn’t that way. Just want to clarify I’m not a tankie, lol.

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There's a whole list on Wikipedia of Super Fund sites that might at first give you the impression that we as a nation monitor, manage, and clean up the spills of toxic and radioactive waste that happen by industry in this country.

If you start reading about these cases you'll realize how fundamentally inadequate our legal system is to punish and prevent toxic materials from escaping into everything from our drinking water to our grain.

It's not just the scale of mistakes and mismanagement, but also the unvarnished evil that lurks in the heart of our nations executive class that intentionally buries radioactive materials and builds a school over it to cover it all up.

Not everything gets a movie made about it especially when the victims of the toxic horror are not white.

Then there are the casual everyday mismanagements that we allow to occur because the owners of those institutions have lots of influence on the government to lower standards and evade punishment.

https://youtube.com/@uscsb The USCSB is another great resource for seeing how poorly our regulatory establishment is equipped to enforce standards on industry.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 58 minutes ago

That same time period around 2013 we also discovered that several armed nuclear bombs were flown across the US under the mistaken idea that they were dummy bombs.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 42 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)
[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Norweigians be laughing...

But who really has the last laugh are the aliens watching this Human Zoo Exhibit right now

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 21 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The largest population of Marshallese people in the continental United States is in Springdale, Arkansas, just a short drive from where I live.

Why is there a large Marshallese population in Arkansas?

Well, you see, between 1946 - 1958, the US government detonated sixty-seven (yes, 67) nuclear weapons on the Marshall Islands, rendering dozens of the islands uninhabitable.

I suppose you could call it a "big whoops" except for the part a where they were fully aware of the dangers of radioactive fallout and just did it anyway.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

tf didn't they drop nukes in arkansas instead? i'd rather live in the Marshall Islands

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Also one of the cores was ever found and is still lost somewhere.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It will probably be found in a stadium's parking lot in Seattle (this is a reference to The Sum of All Fears).

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That was a good and bad movie at the same time.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 9 hours ago

The book is much better.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (5 children)

Half my immediate family has cancer from undisclosed testing causing nuclear fallout over swaths of the southwest US..

US is run by assholes.

[–] VinegarChunks@lemmus.org 3 points 1 hour ago

I went to a beach on the Jersey Shore and saw this sign

[–] PhoenixDog@piefed.ca 21 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

🌏 👨‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

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[–] slemptastrophe@piefed.social 123 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You know how you hear stories sometimes about shadowy government agencies converging on an area for no apparent reason, and then leaving just as fast as they came? People usually assume it's aliens, but I wonder how many of those incidents have been stupid shit like this.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 59 points 1 day ago

The army/airforce actively spread rumors of aliens to hide their activities.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Military term for this is "broken arrow"

It happens more than you would think mostly by the US but also Russia. Usually they find the things pretty fast but a few are just missing and at least one I remember was underwater somewhere it couldn't safely be recovered so the area is patrolled.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Are you referring to bombs the Air Force accidentally dropped or the Navy losing nuke subs? Cause we’ve done both and no one has explained what happened to the USS Scorpion

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sunken_nuclear_submarines

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 17 hours ago

Air force, I think they lost one in the atlantic or gulf in the water but they found one or two swamp ones. My headcannon for the Nemo shark submarine was a mined nuclear sub

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[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Probably all of those, because it's really unlikely that aliens have come to earth and even less likely that an advanced civilization capable of interstellar travel, would ever get busted.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 25 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Isn't the US Air Force still missing like 5 bikes that they lost over the decades?

I could go over mk ultra and other fun little government projects but I guess people already got the point

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 11 hours ago

The fun thing about american history is that americans don't know it.

[–] Shindo66@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

I was wondering where those neighborhood kids got those air force bikes...

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

At least it was bikes and not nukes.

But speaking of nukes I don't get why they didn't continue the lie. If I was an asshole I sure as fuck would not let that go public.

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If Chernobyl had almost exploded and melted down, I wouldn't blame the USSR for trying to hide it.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. And when it did explode, they should have prioritized saving lives rather than preserving national reputation.

Disasters happen. How they are handled is what matters, and on that front, there was a difference between the two sides of the Cold War.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There was a difference but not in the direction you’re thinking. After the US tested a nuclear bomb in the marshal islands that led to an unexpected large fallout not only did they cover it up, they launched a secretive study to see how the fallout would affect the local inhabitants of affected islands. It’s genuinely hard to top that level of fucked up.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Before they knew what the effects would be? Ok.

Whereas your angelic Soviets threw human cattle onto the Chernobyl pyre knowing good and well by then how radiation affected flesh.

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What the fuck is wrong with you? Most liberals I’ve seen on lemmy choose to pretend that US crimes against humanity are in the past. Rarely do I encounter someone so defensive that they openly support secret medial experimentation on native peoples. Project 4.1 happened well after the US dropped bombs on Japan. It continued for decades after. Your flimsy defense of such disgusting behavior falls apart under the slightest amount of scrutiny.

Feel free to live in a fantasy world where the US were “the good guys” but in doing so you’re tacitly endorsing the seriously despicable shit the US did to people around the world including it’s own citizens. If you do that don’t be so surprised when people start to call you a fascist.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Castle Bravo was bigger than expected. More tankie bullshit

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes, and the US mobilized real quick to turn that fallout into an unethical medical experiment on tens of thousands of people. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Are you going to defend the Tuskegee experiments too? Have some shame for fucks sake. Reflexively defending crimes against humanity because the US can do no wrong in your mind is incredibly gross.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 19 points 22 hours ago

Turns out the USA has a long list of nuclear near miss and minor disasters, we just don't like to talk about them. Well There's Your Problem podcast just did a lengthy episode chronicling the more notable publicly-disclosed ones, including the ones in North Carolina. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqJR6kgwCio

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Source? EdIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash

Both of the weapons began their firing sequences upon separation from the aircraft, despite safeguards meant to prevent that from occurring.

[–] coalie@piefed.zip 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This also happened in South Carolina a few years earlier. Unsure when it was revealed to the public. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Mars_Bluff_B-47_nuclear_weapon_loss_incident

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God damn the US has so many nukes it can lose them like coins in a sofa.

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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Continuing...

The other bomb did not get as far into its firing sequence, but became deeply embedded in a muddy field, and one of its major weapons components (the thermonuclear "secondary" stage) was regarded as irrecoverably lost after an extensive, failed effort to recover it.

Me: "IT'S STILL THERE?!?!"

Continuing...

In 1962, the landowner was paid $1,000 to grant the United States of America a perpetual 200-foot (61 m) radius circular easement over the remains of the buried second bomb.[56][57] The site of the easement, at 35°29′37″N 77°51′30″W, is visible as a disturbed area, and lies approximately 250 feet (76 m) north of an obvious circle of trees (and disused cemetery) in the middle of a plowed field visible on Google Earth.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago

Time for spicy pilgrimage!

Satellite image of the easement

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[–] voiceofchris@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

For us not to qualify as a backwards ass country we'd also have to pretend that three mile island wasn't one lucky accident away from doing just what Chernobyl did.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 50 points 1 day ago (18 children)

It would really only be comparable if they nuked north Carolina then tried to cover it up.

It’s not shocking that the military keeps classified that sort of thing, they’d have been hard pressed to keep an actual nuclear detonation classified/hidden 🤷‍♂️

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A near miss and a disaster are worlds apart in terms of consequence, but very close in terms of what went wrong.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Accidentally dropping a nuke is wild.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It wasn't even the only time. They also accidentally dropped 4 more nukes in Spain, 3 of them over land. And the bombs actually detonated (but failed to trigger a nuclear explosion), spreading radioactive material around.

1966 Palomares Accident

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 16 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

And we've done it several times. On domestic soil.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That explains so much about North Carolina.

~ngl, sometimes I kinda wish they had exploded a little bit.~

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Wholesome opossum lady isn't a tankie?? Thank God.

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