They even have a pet son
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Ask the IRL Christians how the nuclear family shit is going. No shortage of cheating and drug abuse happening, I bet
no racism
white af family is the only visible race
Yeahhhh no fucking thanks.
Can't be racism if there's only one race
The helldiver's two launch cutscene does show an interracial couple in a state propaganda video. Racism is one of the few ways the game doesn't to my knowledge show the government being fucked up. Everything else is horrible though
The helldivers also have randomized skin colour, so soldiers of all races can become elite troops.
"elite troops"? You haven't met my teammates.
I think Helldivers have about the same rate of friendly fire as Navy Seals, and they probably write less books about it.
I mean TBF we have a sample size of one family here, but also idk what this post is about so idk idk
If there were only two humans left on Earth, they would find a reason to hate each other.
what? no we wouldn't. fuck you for suggesting that.
[i meant that as a joke love you dude]
/s works just as well...
yes but it does not express properly. it was not sarcastic, it was facetious.
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They started an unprovoked three front war, prioritize citizens differently based on a state defined class system, got the earth blown up on at least one occasion, use their soldiers as disposable cannon fodder, and send everyone who disagree with them to reeducation camps. Other than that its a swell place.
Its tiring how bad general media literacy is that I can't tell if the 4chan post above is a joke.
People forget that r/thedonald started out as a meme space. And then eventually people started taking it seriously.
Because people are stupid.
Basically flat earth society again huh?
The 4chan post probably is a joke.
The problem is, with a lot of their jokes, other users can't tell, so it becomes reality. See also, basically everything wrong with the US and MAGA idiots today.
Voting Trump for President started as a joke on 4chan, and later on Reddit with r/The_Donald. And look where it got us, the butterfly effect in full force.
I've seen one Lemmy bigbrain recently argue that even when artists are showing mafia or army to be terrible for people in them, they romanticize the mafia and army nonetheless, and that in general media glorifies its subject matter regardless of the author's intent. This schmuck would probably say with a straight face that ‘Helldivers’, or whatever this post is about, actually advocates for its model of utopia even if it pretends not to.
The idea of there being no anti-war films is older than Lemmy. The problem is Poe's Law related. You can make a movie or a game that shows the horror of war or the tyranny of distopian totalitarian regimes, but regardless of the intended message, your creation is filtered through your audience's lenses of perception, and some of that audience has been raised to be white supremacists, some have been through schooling that acts more as indoctrination than education, and some of that audience are just seriously fucking stupid.
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Is this helldivers? The game where half of a planet’s population is forcibly turned into bug fuel every few years?
Theres a reoccuring problem with bigly brained thinkers where they omit all the terrible shit and look at only what the propaganda wants them to. Even in a game this remains true.
Most clips from Starship Troopers on YouTube have filled comments' sections with people waxing about how based the society is and it's actually a utopia (to your point).
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A lot of people I've met would honestly happily take a 50% chance to be sacrificed to ensure that those who aren't chosen live a happy life. I have no doubt that they'd think that right up until they're actually chosen, then they'd scream bloody murder about how unfair it is.
"amazing quality of life"
Sure, if you're the right kind of super citizen.
Yea, when choosing a fictional world to aspire for, it's useful to consider how most citizens are treated.
Our current world is great too, for some.
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I get the feeling that this anon would read A Brave New World and have an issue with it being labeled dystopian fiction.
Even the author of BNW wasn't sure of the world really was a dystopia or not. A lot of people do seem to have a lot of freedom, and most seem happy (or at least, not unhappy). Sure, a lot of questionable things have been done to achieve that goal, but if 99% is happy with their life; can it really be a dystopia?
A lot of Westerners look at dictatorships and authoritarian states and cannot comprehend why the citizens would accept such a fate. The answer is: food, safety, housing, and cultural and religious homogeneity. People don't really care that much what the people in charge are doing as long as their life is good.
There's also the idea that since the system "works" it shouldn't be changed. IIRC Le Guin did some stories on a place called Omelas that explored a similar idea: there's this utopian city, but they chuck a child down a hole to suffer there, which for some arcane reasons is deemed as necessary. Once people learn of this, they either accept it as indeed necessary or (rarely) leave.
A utopia only works if everyone thinks of the same thing as being a utopian society, which people generally just don't.
Yes this is why democracy is messy. Everyone has a different preference for the pros and cons of policies.
To be fair, I always considered Brave New World a much less dire dystopy than 1984. I mean you have a really hard time arguing otherwise. People are not free in either but if you could choose, don't tell me you'd choose 1984.
But this debate is moot anyway, what we are heading towards is a combination of the worst of 1984 and Brave New World combined.
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I once had a multiple hour long discussion with someone who claimed it's clearly a utopia... Free drugs, sex without consequences, guaranteed job,...
Freedom is for suckers apparently.
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why are they wearing the Orville uniforms
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