Oh sure, the entire world will just collectively shrug and act like none if this really happened.
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The conservatives of this country don't realize how fucking cooked it is. No one will ever believe us or trust us again, period. If they do it'll be after decades of groveling and begging to get them to accept us as a legitimate country you can rely on.
No. We are permanently and irritrievably fucked.
When Trump leaves office, the 40% of Americans who voted for him will still be there.
Gotta stop with the 40% nonsense. It's misleading. Americans are BAD AT VOTING. 40% of voters in 2024 support Trump. Not 40% of Americans. If I take wikipedias lower end estimate of 342mil people, and divide Trumps number of votes by that, I get 22.6%.
Still super shitty, but not 40.
Some of those will happen, def not all
This is all assuming we actually manage to get him out of office
and that he doesn't get replaced by another like-minded individual
If he really wanted his ballroom and dungeon or whatever is below it done now, he could probably just put more contractors on it.
Sleepers will remain in congress
DOJ and SCOTUS will remain as they are.
Our allies will be thankful, but they will not trust us.
We will remain allied with Israel; we may or may not exit Venezuela.
I... still kind of can't believe that all the turbolibs... seem to just think they're going to win the midterms, and begin fixing things.
No.
No.
Read a goddamned history book.
The fascists will halt or fake or rig the elections, and then they'll just kill you, or throw you into jail...
Like uh, they already said as much, basically, when Kirk got got.
Here's Trump from the weekend:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116272810363139207
Iβm not trusting America or Americans for the rest of my life, sorry guys. Yβall elected a racist fascist pedophile twice and let him get away with some heinous shit. Maybe if you prosecute each and every one of his cronies and chuck them in prison where they belong, the world will give you a chance. Unfortunately youβve chosen isolation.
Dem leadership: We can give you a return to the conditions that paved the way for Trump to be taken seriously as a politician in the first place, final offer.
I admire their optimism.
When Trump leaves office the USA will keep on acting like an evil empire.
Ah yes the Biden strategy. Just carry on like none of that shit just happened
These all sound nice on the surface but the actual odds of any of this happening feels extremely low. Establishment dems hate their voters more than they hate Trump and that is the issue.
Absolutely.
Hardly. The damage done is not so easily fixed. The US has proved it can't be trusted.
This viewpoint is flawed and dangerously naive.
The damage is not as superficial as a name or a building. The USA allowed this to happen. The checks and balances that were supposed to be built into the system have failed. The United States of America, it's government, and it's whole social structure is no longer reliable. It does not end with the removal from power or even the death of Trump.
In 2016 the world got to know Donald Trump. In 2024 the world got to know the American people.
In 2024 the first world got to know the American people.
FTFY. Places that had to live with the consequences of US bombs and CIA regime change already knew what the American people were like.
You can tell its lib nonsense when they mention the kennedy center. Noone gives a shit about that but limosine liberals. Its the biggest tell. Be wary of Occupy Democrats.
It is symbolic of Trump's disregard for law. The name of the center is in a law, and changing it without passing a law is illegal.
No, it isn't important, but following laws is, at least laws that are not unjust.
In what fantasy Land do you live?
My point exactly, see post title.
Anything that Trump has done via executive order can be undone just as easily, but the weakening of U.S. soft power is likely permanent. Nobody can trust the United States to act as a consistent and reliable cohort in any capacity, because we have proven to be unreliable and our foreign policy has been wildly inconsistent, shifting with the whims of the ignorant American electorate every 4-8 years.
I also don't think it's going to be that easy to purge the MAGA corruption from government agencies. They will put their masks back on and pretend to be good little worker bees, but everything that they do will be in service to Trump, not to the nation or the constitution. It will take ten times longer to root them out and oust them than it did for Trump and his cronies to install them.
If we have an unbroken string of left wing progressive presidents for the next 30 years, we might recover. If even one Republican snake manages to slither into office, the work will be undone in the span of a single term.
You're wrong, though. Executive orders can be undone, but it's what happened after the order was issued that cannot. People quit. People died. People got tortured. Institutions collapsed. You can't undo that by reversing the order.
So that's it? Nothing will fundamentally change?
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The US will bomb another several countries for no reason
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We will remain subservient to Israel
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We will get another Republican in four years who will repeat every mistake they've ever made and then some
So you're saying that, at best, almost nothing will change? That makes me so relieved.
The Gulf of Mexico is still the Gulf of Mexico. No country other than the USA calls it anything else.
Trump has already caused decades of harm, some probably permanent. When people warned of irrevocable damage should Trump be elected, this is what they referred to.
A single example: Iran. If they still exist when Trump leaves office or dies, they're not going to jump back into the Iran Nuclear Deal. If we don't want them to have nuclear weapons, Trump shouldn't have withdrew us from the agreement that was working in 2018 just because it was an Obama success! Shit like that is why we're fucked...
They really don't want to admit that it's Jover.
Remember when we repealed the patriot act and got rid of the TSA? Or put the guardrails back in place after that big crash? No, the other crash, the one that happened after the guardrails were removed the second time.
The world knows that it is not only Trump. We know that there is a broad election basis supporting that policy, that there are billionaires pushing it and that the whole GOP is totally in line with it. We witnessed how Biden tried to fix the damage of Trump1 and then we got an even worse Trump2.
So the world is trying to get out of their dependence on the USA and that will go on, because there will always be the threat of another trumplike president coming from the MAGA swamp
They can do whatever inside their part of America. But they no longer have allies to speak of.
The international community will never trust the US again. Every shred of soft power and trust in the US is gone, and nobody will make an agreement that isn't purely short-term transactional for decades to come.
That's not how it works.
In many cases trust is broken and it might never be restored. People won't come back if they know they can be vilified and fired again in a few years. Allies? We will never think of the US as a reliable partner again. Not in my life time.
Americans elected a psycho, a literal psycho. The only thing I will remember is that it will likely happen again.
Americans elected a psycho, a literal psycho.
RE-elected*
they elected him twice! It's not like they didn't know what was coming, they were okay with it
This has two problems, because it assumes:
- the next president will not be a similiar idiot
- there will still be elections.
It has been looking like Trump is going for a dictatorship for a long time and things are getting increasingly worse recently.
There is a third problem. It assumes talented people are will return to jobs where they can be fired at the whim of a presidents.
Yep. Guaranteed.
Also, billionaires are going to be embarrassed and start giving away their money. The pedophiles that were all in charge will demand to be put in prison for their crimes out of pure guilt.
That's a good fantasy but, youve shown how easily you can alienate your allies and trust will not be rebuilt immediately.
You will have to show that as a country youve all collectively grown.
As a European,
It will take a lot more than these, along with plenty of time and pain, to regain the trust of the rest if the world.
Mostly it will require a turn, in behalf of the USA, to a functioning democracy, with checks and balances, a functioning senate and house of representatives, a functioning justice, a functioning administration, a working economy, fair trade and so on.
I m not very optimistic that the USA will do it in my lifetime if ever.
