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I suspect a large part of the problem is that, at least in my experience, this is not at all explained to students and often the teachers themselves do it as "something that everybody does" rather than with the understanding that there is an underlying purposed that homework is meant to serve (which sould inform the when, what, how and how much of homework).

If see a similar kind of problem in my area (Software Development) all the time - people doing certain things because "they're good practices", "it's what you're supposed to do" or even "that's what everybody does" without at all understanding the underlying reasons for doing it (and, more importantly, when to do it, when not to do it and how best to do it), which is why for example nowadays you have countless of "Agile" teams that are doing wrong or unecessary (in their context) parts of it whilst not doing the parts that the should do just doing things they think they're supposed to do it but doing them incorrectly since they don't get what those things are supposed to achieve and how.

Mind you, some people are just lazy, so some students will just "optimize away" homework with whatever tools they have to do so, even when knowing the purpose of homework and when being given the most learning-enhancing homework possible.

Being able to use exercise equipment with a forklift would be pretty cool tho

That sounds way more fun

if 90% of jobs can be replaced by AI bullshit, why tf do we even need to work? Why shape society so you must do shitty non existent jobs to survive?

When I am struggling with Language Arts and excelling at Math, the extra time spent on unmastered Language homework benefits me. The extra time spent on Math serves only to waste my time and distract me from the Language work that needs my central focus.

The intention of homework is to benefit the student. The reality is that most students would be best served by skipping the homework and getting some exercise instead.

In the gradebook, the unit test score should be the floor for all homework scores in that unit. Score a 95% on the test, and even if you turn in zero homework, a 95% should be recorded for each assignment. S

Turn in 95% on each and every homework assignment, but score a 65% on the test? You keep your 95% scores showing you put in the work, even though you clearly haven't mastered the material.

Turn in no homework, and score a 65% on the test? Every homework assignment is now a 65%.

With this system, doing the homework can only help you. Skipping the homework is risky, but allowable.

Indeed, it's not that LLM is totally uncorrelated to factual basis, it is correlated well enough for most educational fodder that is supremely well trodden and doesn't seek surprises. It's practice with backgrounds the teachers can actually already know and credibly provide feedback on. It's so well known that any teacher knows, so it's correlated with AI output that has been trained on verbatim prompts and essays that are on the exact same topic, and so the narrative correlated with the prompt is just very likely to also correlate to the facts of relevance.

Just like a pocket calculator can make short work of elementary school math. It's not that we expect those kids to do some crazy novel stuff that calculators can't do, it's just that they need to operate in a context to actually illustrate they have the foundational understanding.

your education in general, is not for the teacher, it's for you

Most teachers don’t understand that

As I see it, teachers should make sure that students know the purposed of homework and how it is supposed to help them learn, and then homework should just be optional to complete, though for the psychological effect homework completion should checked and lauded and people should get feedback on it.

Mind you, this only really makes sense for students old enough to actually understand an explanation of the purpose of homework and how it helps learning.

Non scholae sed vitae discimus!

same, they all love cheating, before AI they would mostly just copy paste eachother's work

and me the alone kid who actually wanted and cared about learning would be drown out in busy work to be done, get bad grades even though I did well in tests and exercises, simply because I failed to do the annoying boring homeowrk of writting an essay that we all know the teacher is not reading, that they just made thjs assigment to give students free grade points because they know that if they didn't half of the students would fail the class, they would go lenghts about how they were being nice by doing this, and yet screwing over me would never be mentioned, one of the few students that ever displayed any form of curiosity in class

I hear you, but language class is actually a decent example. I met a language requirement of 2 years in high school. Then I turned around and completed the required two semesters in college, of the same language, starting over at the beginning. I don't know anything but the most elementary French.

In high school I did all the homework and felt lots of stress and really struggled. In college, I google translated my way through all the homework, phoned it in and same result, way less time and energy. So using the computer was actually easier in the end.

I'm probably never making it to France. Maybe not even Canada. You could argue it was still good for my brain to stretch in that way, but it was just never going to click for me and was a requirement regardless of my actual educational needs.

My single semester of sign language I actually picked up on decently and it tickled my brain in all kinds of ways, and I actually used it at work once to help a dude. No one's ever come into any of my workplaces speaking French (at least not yet)

I don't think the point was anti-learning so much as it was anti-measurement

Yeah it's built to serve as practice and to leave you with the questions you need to ask the next day.

I get it. I hated homework in school and generally didn't do it. And a fair bit of it was busywork. But when I got to college I learned the hard way that if I didn't do my homework, I wouldn't really have the skills. It's easy to sit through classes daydreaming or even listening, and just not really understand how to do a thing.

I tried it for my class, and the questions they come up with is boring, repetitive, and generic.

I feel very sorry for you that you need to endure that.