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[–] AlfalFaFail@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

Man... Sort working with my kiddo on this particular root issue. Getting to the answer is great. Do it fast for sure. But learning the skill of sustained effort is an important skill to develop. We're using piano as our entry point. He'll be able to get the piece down in about 45 to 60 minutes. So we're working on developing creative expression in a piece, improv that allows for techniques learned in the piece, and then just introducing the next piece. I'm looking forward to him creatively engaging the same piece for an extended period of time.

"Gifted" education has come a long way since I was a kid. We know acceleration isn't the only or even best tool for kids. And many gifted kids come with different executive functions so rote repetition feels like torture. Employing a depth of knowledge schema and circling back to previously learned concepts coupled with individual expression has been great! That and developing emotional tools for self regulation have been the primary efforts for the last few years. It's been getting a lot better!

[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

It was the teacher's way of calling him a dork

[–] ApatheticCactus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I struggled at math as a young kid because I hated doing everything the long way and showing every step. I got a mental math book that taught how to do longer form multiplication in your head. I could multiply 2-3 digit numbers in my head and just tell you the answer.

My teacher made me do it on the board in front of everyone and swore I was cheating somehow because if she couldn't do it, a kid couldn't either.

I was also reading Michael Chriton books in the 4th grade, and teachers thought that I wasn't because kids don't read books like that.

School was kinda annoying with how it would punish you for being anywhere outside of normal. Even if it was positive.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

swore I was cheating somehow because if she couldn't do it, a kid couldn't either

because kids don't read books like that.

School was kinda annoying with how it would punish you for being anywhere outside of normal. Even if it was positive.

This 100x. I taught myself how to read before going to first grade. The reward was being isolated in an empty classroom for a lot of first grade when others were learning to spell. Well there was one other kid, but she didn't speak. She had been taught by her extremely strict parents to read before school. They had like 7 children and were horribly strict. This girl starter crying once when she got what's equivalent to an A-, afraid she was going be yelled at at home.

There was a special class for anyone below average. But dear me, if you were above average no you weren't, because that's just rude.

Doing any work I was given faster than other didn't result in getting more challenging work. It just resulted in getting more of the same boring shit I'd already shown I know very well.

I could've been one of those kids who go to college at 14, but nooooo. I just learned to avoid work and hide my skills

Remember title of mental math book?

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe they meant that the student rushes/half asses tasks. Doing them quickly doesn't imply them being correct.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got this, too. It was because I didn’t show my work. So I started writing out my process, and it wasn’t “how we were taught”, and got a 0 once again for it.

After that I just quit doing the work at all, and I’m sure they felt justified calling me lazy. I’m a lot of things but I’m not lazy.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My worst version of this was in third grade where we learned our multiplication tables. Our teacher had us all make multiplication flashcards. 1x1 up through 12x12. She then assigned us to spend a certain amount of hours practicing the flashcards, including some log and parental sign-off IIRC. A card might have "3x8" written on one side, "24" on the other. Practice and drill until you memorize them all.

Well, the problem I had was that I memorized my times tables in a fraction of the time we were required to practice. I ended up getting in trouble for not having enough practice hours - even though I was acing the quizzes we were getting. This wasn't even about showing your work, as this was a rote exercise in memorization!

But the teacher thought that it took X number of hours of practice to learn your times tables. That's what she assigned, and nothing was going to change her mind. So I sat at home pointlessly practicing the times tables I had already memorized, instead of doing something fun or even moving ahead to more advanced math concepts.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had teachers like this. Let's just say I keep coming back to less than nice things to say about that kind of behavior.

The flash-card thing is kind of cursed anyway because multiplication is commutative, and you really don't need the cards for zero, one, and ten. If you can add anything to itself in your head, throw out the twos while we're at it. So you really only need 40-ish cards to do the job, not 144+.

or even moving ahead to more advanced math concepts.

Yeah, can't break the class up into multiple lesson plans. Gotta move with the herd.

In a just world, you'd have been bumped up a grade, moved into an advanced track, or given time in advanced sessions with other gifted students. That said, your teacher would have been responsible for making those recommendations. FWIW, I did get into those advanced sessions but only after contact with a teacher that wasn't projecting, envious, or an authoritarian blowhard about this kind of thing.

In a just world, you’d have been bumped up a grade, moved into an advanced track, or given time in advanced sessions with other gifted students. That said, your teacher would have been responsible for making those recommendations.

Oh that did end up happening eventually. I did go down that track. Ended up taking calculus freshman year of high school.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's alot of us out there that don't work like the system expects. You either know the answer or you don't, taking more time doesn't do anything for our brains.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

There’s alot of us out there that don’t work like the system expects.

But the role of the teacher is to analyze the student's behavior and provide useful coaching/advice. If your response to every critique is "Well, I'm just not constructed to operate that way" then you've squandered any value in the perspective of your mentor.

You're implying some kind of native and intractable component of your psychology. As though neither you, nor any of your classmates, should ever be expected to adapt or expand your abilities. A bleak perspective to apply in adulthood. An absolutely nihilistic perspective to have when you're still a very plastic formative child.

You either know the answer or you don’t

On multiple choice questions, maybe. Not on essays or proofs or other depth-of-knowledge questions.

If you were asked the question "How do bird's fly?" you can provide a very wide latitude of answers. Some of them are short and pithy "They flap their wings". While others are far more involved or focused on a particular area of expertise "" versus "" versus "".

But if you're in a biology class and you keep giving physics answers to the question, then turning your nose up at your teacher when they say you are missing something critical, why did you sign up for the class to begin with?

“How do bird’s fly?”

Mostly horizontally, a bit vertically. 😂

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I remember being told I needed to do homework at home and my assigned work at school. I was fast enough that I got through the assignment and started on my homework. Teacher told me to stop. I kept at it as I figured it was better than sitting around bored out of my skull. Teacher lost her shit and I got sent to the principal's office.

As a kid, this confused me. However, I kept doing it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Part of the purpose of homework is to encourage the student to revisit the assignment later in the day. Repetition of exercise develops muscles and your brain is a muscle.

That said

Teacher lost her shit

Generally best when teachers manage their own tempers, as hot heads do a poor job of gaining the trust and maintaining the attention of their students.

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While teaching is an underpaid profession, and good teachers deserve A LOT of respect for what they do, it has to be said that many many horrible people become teachers.

I've had my fair share of these people. Would throw them off a cliff if I could lol

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

I loved to read, so if I got my work or test done quickly, I had time to read while everybody else was still.workung.

I was especially good with reading tests, because I was always the best reader in my classes in elementary school. I was always the first done.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

I know I ain't doin' much.
Doing nothing means a lot to me.

~ AC/DC Downpayment Blues

[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I suppose it could be a criticism of the quality of the work: i.e. you finish it quickly but it's half-arsed because you were too lazy to take the time to do it properly.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 150 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I would also be completely confused and offended for the rest of my life if a teacher had said something like that to me

[–] Denvil@piefed.world 96 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

I was grateful that my teachers were chill with this

I'd finish my math work while the teacher was still explaining it to the class, and just start reading a book. Teacher was fine with it because I was a good student and got good grades.

Rant incoming

Although I do have one particular gripe with that teacher unrelated to any of that. Question was how far was a person in a pool from the life guard on a life guard tower. I found the hypotenuse, moved on to other questions. Got marked wrong so I brought it up to the teacher, and her explanation was that she wanted the distance from the person to the tower (the BOTTOM of the tower?????) under the logic that you wouldn't just float on up in a straight line to the life guard. First of all, the question was specifically worded as distance from person to life guard, NOT travel distance. Secondly to the BOTTOM of the life guard tower??? You wanted that value, not even the added distance of the length to the bottom of the tower and the length to climb the tower??????

If you asked me how far away a plane in the sky is from me, and I answered 5 feet, I'd look like a damn idiot.

I kind of wish I pushed her on that question harder. I kind of just thought "good lord she's out of her mind" and sat back down because it had little to no impact on my grade. But I have lived years being pissed about getting that question wrong, I simply cannot move on from it.

[–] brian@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 days ago

don't worry random-internet-person, I just graded your answer and found that you were correct and that other person grading you was wrong.

so you know, you can move on now?

[–] ponypuncher@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (7 children)

In 2nd grade I decided one day to just complete my entire 2nd grade math book because it was easy for me at the time. Their solution was to force me to go into a third grade class for math but I quit because it meant I lost one of my recesses and thought that was bullshit. Honestly, surprised no one followed up and forced me to go back at any point. I just stopped going and no one said anything.

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[–] Klox@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Reminds me of one of my elementary school English teachers. We were all given a blank hardcover book and had to make a story with illustrations. Mine was called "The Loose Kitty". Every page basically had the kitty on the loose in different areas of a city, running into other animals that had some rhyming. I spent so much time with the art, proofing it, etc. This teacher took hard red ink and strikes through loose and put "lost" ON EVERY PAGE. I tried to tell her no it is loose because EVERYTHING IN THE BOOK related to being "on the loose". Nope. Got like a C- on that thing.

Am I still sour about it 30 years later? Yes, I still loose my shit.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

This used to be my mentality in regards to work for the majority of my early twenties. Turns out pretty much every job out there will give you more work to do if you are too efficient. Eventually it reaches a point where you have too much on your plate and start getting burned out fairly quickly yet you've set the bar so high that anything less than maximum efficiency is considered lazy.

My new method is to work at 50%-70% efficiency while at work and I take my time on everything I'm asked to do. I've worked my ass off for about a decade at various jobs and was only rewarded with more work. I'll save my efficiency for the things I actually care about in my life.

I have a coworker that is currently in the situation I was in five years ago. He's working late every single day and barely has any time for personal business because he worked too hard at the beginning to "climb the ladder" that he's now overworked and miserable as more things keep getting piled on top. I was talking to him the other day and he was saying that he started working on the weekends because he has so much shit he has to do.

[–] TwoTiredMice@feddit.dk 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I actually started getting more recognition when I started producing 60-70 % or less instead of 120 %. It was like management thought that, if my tasks took longer, it was probably because I was very thorough and the task was very difficult, even though the end result would be the same. If I solved a task in 1 day, instead of 5 days, they regarded the task as easy instead of me being good. The slower i worked, the more applause I got from my manager... But, he was also an idiot... But, i wouldn't be surprised if this was a pattern in other companies as well.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 day ago

It’s a pattern everywhere. I purposely tell people the modeling takes me weeks. it might take me an hour, maybe.

If i come back too soon with results they expect to get it for nearly free. Nah you’re paying for 20+ years of practice.

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I used to sleep in my accounting class. Another student got offended and was like why doesn’t he just skip? My teacher said he comes in, gets straight As, he can take a nap if he likes.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

See I use to do the same in history but I got an F. Loser

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This was me in highschool, I was so bored of the pace we were going at, so I skipped a lot of classes, came in and aced tests, not with the correct answers they were looking for, but still correct. 🤣

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This was me including the AP classes. Then I got accepted to a really good engineering school and got my ass handed to me because I never developed proper study skills.

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[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I got the same insult as a child. I just thought "ah she's stupid" and moved on and never thought about it until I saw this post

[–] plyth@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

A task is always only so big that the weakest child can do it. That's often not enough to learn something thoroughly.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

A teacher once said to me, for acting antisocial: "if you keep pushing people away: one day, they'll just leave you alone"

I wasn't doing it for attention. I'm very glad to be largely left alone now. It's great.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

“Antisocial” doesn’t mean “introverted”

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[–] Erna_muse@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 days ago (9 children)

The problem is psychopaths are driven to leadership and they're not actually good at anything.

Basically their ego tells them that they're pareto people when they're really not and society can't tell the difference. Mostly they just steal labor. And they're too stupid and insecure to identify and empower the most efficient people.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

You just described MAGA.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 days ago (5 children)

My first grade teacher criticized me for not cutting straight enough on some time waster paper piecing project we were doing. Sorry for not having perfect motor control, I’m 6??

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[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

But was she right though?

[–] zigmus64@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

My HS football coach once called me the dumbest smart kid he’d ever met because I kept mixing up my assignments for each play. Highest GPA on the team…

Didn’t get my ADHD diagnosis until I was 39, lol

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had a teacher who said the same bullshit. But she also fucking sucked at her job. She taught typing and computer literacy but did not actually know how to use a computer and just hated every student that knew more than her.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had a similar problem.

Once, in school, i did all my homework fast. We had a week to do it, i handed it in after a day only. The teacher saw that, thought i'm very interested or that they give us too little homework, and then increased homework for me and everyone else. I learned not to do things quickly. It will only backfire.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This is the way.

Don't procrastinate the work....just procrastinate the turn-in.

This way, you can feign being busy and be done at the same time! Nobody needs to know that you're done. That means you can slack off right up until the last possible second, completely stress-free.

If you start showing your hand, they're gonna start expecting more from you. And what will you get in return? Maybe an extra 0.5% on your raise? Nah brah. Keep it. 0.5% on 100k is $500/yr. Is less than $10/wk...after taxes, they barely bought you a coffee every week.

By all means...work at a medium pace while you're new. Don't want to get caught while you're still green. But once you're comfortable in a place...

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

When I was a kid, I noticed that I was consistently finishing My work early, so I asked the teacher for the next lesson's work. I wanted to speed through the entire year's coursework and finish early so I could have an extended summer.

Teacher said no, but I got My wish in the end. I got to skip an entire year of school. Didn't get any more summer, though.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm "lazy" in that same way and I always bring it up when I'm asked what my strengths are in interviews. I don't like doing unnecessary work. I will be the one automating tasks and finding more efficient ways to do things while other people are wasting their time doing it the long way, purely because I want to waste less time on it.

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