Just more evidence that '24 was one of the most winnable elections of all time, an opportunity just thrown into the trash by abwd/ people who didn't want to hear about accountability when it comes to Democrats..
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Just more evidence that '24 was one of the most winnable elections of all time
Or, or or, and hear me out: Trump being in office for another year and a half has served as a stark reminder of how shitty Republicans actually are, and even Republicans are angry about it. American voters as a collective are fickle, stupid, incurious, and confoundingly forgetful. The district is considered a swing seat roughly mirroring Michigan statewide, and we've seen a consistent trend across the country of Democrats overperforming after Trump took office and somehow displayed even worse leadership than in his first term. Democrats did considerably better in 2026 than they did in 2022 despite having the same district map, and Harris narrowly won the 35th in 2024. The much larger margin clearly reflects anti-Trump sentiment caused by his time in office.
Or, or or, and hear me out: The Harris and Biden campaigns chose to ignore the clear signal the Michigan voters told them with regard to their position of Israel and Gaza. You know. They thing the voters fucking told the campaign, at the fucking time. Not some post-hoc interpretation. You know, what actually happened.
And like, lets just work with what you've given.
'22: +13
'24: -14
'26: +22
We can interpret this as The Biden Harris position on Israel Gaza representing a net negative of 27 points. Farrrr more than sufficient for Michigan to have gone to Harris. Trumps behavior then accounts for 8 points of the swing.
So you're using figures from a 2026 Michigan Senate election to extrapolate about how Michigan was so winnable in 2024 thanks to Israel–Palestine instead of the obvious "Trump fucking sucks and people are angry". This district swung about 5 points just from the 2022 race when Israeli apartheid was well in effect but before most Americans were concerned about it as a primary issue.
You can make the argument that Israel–Palestine mattered at the margins in Michigan in 2024 (which wouldn't even have decided the election); trying to argue it was "one of the most winnable elections of all time" (even if hyperbolically) at all let alone based on those 35th District figures is so obviously asinine that I don't even feel I need to explain it. I will offer that the 35th Senate District has effectively fuck-all in the way of a Muslim vote and that you don't magically get an approximately 9-point swing when you take Israel–Palestine out.
Michigan was so winnable in 2024 thanks to Israel–Palestine instead of the obvious “Trump fucking sucks and people are angry”
Jesus fucking christ, Michigan voters literally told Democrats they didn't want to support the campaigns positions on Israel-Palestine in the primary. No gymnastics necessary. They wrote it onto their ballots.
You are calling 11.7% of voters in this county/ district "fuck all". That's the proportion that told the campaign exactly what was necessary, and you are saying this 11% of voters aren't worth considering. This is precisely why Democrats lost the election.
You're right, the Democrats chose to ignore what the Michigan voters were telling them. And in response, Michigan voters didn't vote for Democrats, and the world got objectively worse as a result, because Trump was elected to office.
Democrats failed their constituents. And the constituents who didn't vote out of protest allowed Trump to become president and make the world worse--even knowing that he was the worse option. Both of these things are true. We don't have to pretend like it's one or the other.
Every time. Just be happy the Democrats can get more control and stop or slow down the Trump shit show. Just because they aren't going to enact your ideal political and economic system doesn't mean it's not what we badly need right now.
Just because they aren’t going to enact your ideal political and economic system doesn’t mean it’s not what we badly need right now.
If Democrats continue to ignore developing a deep understanding of why voters behave the way they do, similar to your obtuse, misguided, and obviously bad faith understanding of voting, they'll continue to struggle against Trump, Republicans, and whatever comes next.
Michigan told the both the Biden and Harris campaigns what policy changes were required to get their votes. The campaigns chose to ignore the information they were given. Michigan voters told the campaign where they were at and why, the campaigns chose to ignore that information, and you are apologizing for that by blaming the voters for not wanting a candidate who supports genocide.
And its quite literally disgusting that you take this bad faith interpretation. It truly leaves me with the understanding that you are an apologist for genocide: because what else could you be?
Commenters who regularly come to these conversations with the shitlib/ third way/ Blue MAGA victim complex that voters need to just do what they are told: They're wreckers. They kept the Biden campaign and later the Harris campaign in support of genocide. They've not one clue of what it takes to win elections. They're literally working constantly to lose further elections with their unwillingness to develop a basic understanding of how elections work.
If stopping Trump is their true goal, they should keep as far away from the conversation around "what we should do" as possible. They handed the country to fascism twice.
I don't think 24 was highly winnable for Democrats. It was a coin toss year that they fumbled by pretending Biden was remotely ok to be a candidate.
Democrat voters will use this information to stay home in November, while Republicans fix elections to win them.