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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 77 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

I don't get loyalty to a politician

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 45 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

There are multiple layers of reinforcement - it's tied up in their religion, personal identity, friend groups.

They have doubts but like any cult, when your life is essentially founded on zealous dogma, even if you have a large amount of cognitive dissonance over what you and the cult are doing, you can't reject it because rejecting it means rejecting your family, your friends, and your own identity, and likely also making enemies of everyone who comprises your support group.

It's part of why, as satisfying as it is, I can't really be on board with just telling ex-MAGA "you did this to yourself" and to go eat a penis. All that does is isolate them and make them likelier to relapse into the cult, the only welcoming group available to them.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Might be good for some of them to try eating dick though while they're experimenting with like different stuff

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I mean.....I don't see the appeal of saying them trying gay things is a funny joke.

Because here's the thing. If a maga person tried sucking a dick, and realized he really liked it? Ok. That's fine. I wouldn't think less of them for being gay.

I think less of them for supporting and enabling fascist political groups that force their policies on all of us. The kind of politicians that "Don't ever consider the financial situation of their citizens".

I think less of people who support pedophiles. I couldn't care less what genitalia they enjoy in their mouth.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 1 points 30 minutes ago

Its not a joke its like they just had to discard like their entire identity to be less evil time to experiment why not try some new shit sexually real recommendation

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago

He didn't say suck a dick though. He said eat a dick. I always took eat a dick to be a pejorative regardless of the orientation of the target.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 14 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

So many people told me they voted for him the first time because he was a business man, and not a politician....

Uhm, since when the fuck are businessmen reliable???? When someone says business man I think of like an unctious used car salesman.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

There are a lot of people who think ability to make money equals superiority.

[–] blackbearjesus27@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

“I trust the business man” says person who has literally never trusted anyone with authority on that principle

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

This is what I think. Let's take Mamdani for an example. I think what he's doing is great and I would vote for him if I lived in New York, in a heartbeat. He's doing exactly what we want a politician to do. He was inspiring before he won. Then I heard a recent interview and he was avoiding questions like a "real" politician and not talking real talk. It was annoying, even though I still think he's great.

I think trump spoke like they would. Of course, he was conning them and saying everything just vague enough to think he was always saying what they wanted to hear. He has a way to do it that is very slick, it's his superpower. Plus he's racist and was doing dog whistles left and right.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That may be because you're too smart to think of politics as team sports.

Unfortunately, there's a majority of people who see it as tribalism because they don't have the intelligence to think about politics further than Red vs Blue.

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 11 points 4 hours ago

The sports team thing is so fucked up we need to stop doing that

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Sunk cost fallacy

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm not saying it's any easier to understand, but it's at least present enough on Lemmy to be worth studying, because it's definitely not a left right or r d thing. It's ubiquitous.

And I think another commenter made the point that I strongly agree with, that much of this is based in personality and identity; but that isn't an inherent vice. Rather, if maybe we outline it as two ways of coming to a thing; maybe you are borne into a identity, and then later you come to understand the ideas that idea represents versus coming to some conclusions and the becoming the identity associated with them. The second, though maybe superficially seems more defensive, is far less human: it's just not actually how most people work. And if you want rhetoric to work, you have to accept people where they are at and meet them there.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"Oh no! The consequences to my actions now that they affect me!" - Every Trump supporter who finally sees Trump as evil 5 seconds before forgetting and sucking his micro-dick again

[–] homes@piefed.world 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

oh, no, boo hoo! it finally hit their wallet in just the right way that it violated their specific "individuality"!

fuck them and their anti-social abandonment of the rest of the 350M+ of the rest of the USA

when I vote and think about my individual rights, I VERY MUCH ALSO am thinking about my fellow 350M+ Americans and their wellbeing. and their futures. I really am

I'm certain this person isn't and never has

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't get to vote for my personal best interests because I'm too busy voting for the best interests of the most vulnerable in our society because I have an ounce of empathy.

It's sad how selfish people can be.

[–] homes@piefed.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

yeah, nobody gets the direct vote for their interest, it was an abstract comment representing the common vote in the last election, which you might have understood if you counted anything beyond your own concern, ironically hypocritical of what you, yourself, just said.

Hmm...

[–] macaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

He is promoting* his website where he sells his book

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be taking any kind of input or commentary from some idiot that voted like this three times.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

I suspect some grifting by this 3x trump voter