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[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 123 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Ugh. Even if I wanted this product, their track record on long term product support has erased my trust. They never fixed connectivity for the Chromecast and now they've discontinued it. Why am I gonna buy something that breaks down or gets an expensive subscription in a couple of years.

Plus, if I post a video their stakeholders don't like on YouTube I risk getting locked out of every Google service including Gemini, all by automated processes and with no way to even talk to a human to explain my case. They are judge, jury and executioner within their ecosystem.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Sure, you can say it's an honest mistake by the customer and by Google. But then Google wouldn't budge. This guy was left with zero options

[–] KatherinaReichelt@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah - they've abandoned so many products that I really do not want another new Google product in my life that will be abandoned in the future. And their track record with banning accounts for no reason while providing no support at all doesn't help

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 3 days ago

Google's gonna be sleep deprived.

[–] EliteCloneMike@lemmy.zip 66 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Highly recommend people leave Google services. Use Ente to store photos. Proton for email. DuckDuckGo or Ecosia for search. Organic Maps for directions. FreeTube or yewtu.be for videos. Venice AI as your advanced chatbot. Google needs to be broken up and regulated.

[–] tuxiqae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Never heard of Venice AI, asked it what it does different, one of the things it said was:

I don't need to be politically correct or "woke" in my responses

Fuck that shit

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[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Other options:

  • Tuta for email
  • CoMaps for maps and directions on your phone
  • Nextcloud for self hosted cloud and pictures
  • ublock origin and sponsor block to browse YT in a non chromium browser.
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[–] QualifiedKitten@discuss.online 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm slowly working on getting away from Google, but unfortunately, Organic Maps doesn't offer public transit directions/schedules in my region, and since I don't have a car, that's like 80% of what I use Google Maps for.

[–] KatherinaReichelt@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

Check out the apps from your local public transit authority. In my region what Google offers in regard to public transit is utter trash and the "official" apps are having the correct shedule

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[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Couple of recommended changes if you are self hosting:

  • Immich vs Ente. The feature set better mirrors Google's when self hosting.
  • OpenWebUI with local models instead of Venice AI - Heard some bad things about Venice's "anti-woke" system prompt.
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[–] RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 days ago

Gonna be a long fucking night then.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

google like MS feeling the pressure of the AI bursting, trying to stave off thier decline with pushing AI into everything like MS is trying to do.

[–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, Google is desperately trying to find customers for its AI.

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[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Sounds like Google will never rest then, because that shit will never be in my home.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

I mean, not my home.

[–] lemmyng@piefed.ca 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Just wait a year or two and Google will kill Gemini on their own.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

Depends how fast MS does it first. thier AI VIDEO editor mustve been very expensive, since i havnt seen those videos anymore.

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[–] spaceracoon@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Sometimes I wonder how much this is about a Top Down holistic strategy, or simply that every feature team in the org is adding "AI" stuff just to react to the pressure.

Still not in my home 🤣

[–] coriza@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Definitely the latter. I unfortunately use a lot of Google services and they are pushing AI integration in everything and making it very hard to opt out or they keep pesting you to enable it.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 33 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Anyone who didn't learn their lesson from the Nest debacle is a fool. I would never let another Google device into my home.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)
[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They killed off their first and second gen thermostats for no good reason.

They also sold off their smoke detector business.

Amongst all the other things they’ve killed.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

will pixel be next, enshittified through gemini that nobody wants it anymore.

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[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Let them be tired then.

[–] brap@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Can't if I don't have any of your stupid hardware.

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[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

Well I guess Google will have a hard time resting then because it is nowhere in my home.

[–] Grumpus_Maximus@thelemmy.club 16 points 4 days ago

I don't care how much Google pushes Gemini. I trust any chinese company more

[–] exussum@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They're going to kill their name brand of "googling" things

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That seems to have already happened. My kids and their gaggle of teenage friends never utter the name of that company that I've heard. The phrase "search it up" is common.

[–] Polkira@piefed.ca 4 points 4 days ago

I've been trying to correct myself every time I want to say "google it" to "look it up" or "search it", it's a bit of an uphill battle since I've been saying google it for years but I'll get there.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Hey Co-Pilot, remove Gemini"

"Hey Gemini, remove Co-Pilot"

Let them fight it out. 😉

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

will it work if you ask it to remove itself.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 17 points 5 days ago

The HomeAssistant ecosystem is a lot neater, it lets you do what you want without billionaires screwing with your life.

I think alot of folks have been going the other direction considering it doesn't work nearly as well as the old assistant. When they pushed the new shit to the Google home devices and everything stopped working we just stopped using it and have no desire to go back.

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

They’re messing with Gmail, Google Sheets and Calendar a bit much for my comfort, my business relies on these to work with no change to any part of the product and perfectly. Adding non deterministic tools to these is them walking on a tight rope as I won’t be dealing with fallout from the mistakes and issues caused due to Google spiking unsolicited non opt out “features” to my business workflow.

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

May they never rest.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

But it is so bad. I don’t understand how with all the data they have about everyone their Gemini integrations in their products suck so much. Can’t make a proper task from the email list. Can’t find docs related to meetings. It is all literally in their systems.

Their product managers are so shortsighted. Jam half-assed stuff and pat themselves on the back.

I know people will probably disagree but I like the fact that Apple has stepped back on AI and slowed down. I suspect once they finally release something. It may actually be useful and probably opt-in/out. Whether the op-out is actually real is another debate.

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

ain't no fucking google or gemini (except the gemini protocol, which is super cool) coming to my home

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

As they say, "no rest for the wicked."

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Looks like google has a lotta sleepless nights ahead.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Google is a company with datacenters. It never rested anyway.

Also, f- these “AI” (surveillance mics)

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago

to be fair amazon is the same with alexa+

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

What's neat, is that I can't holler and turn off my lights anymore, but now I also need to watch what I say about our glorious leadership.

It's honestly been a little disruptive in the car, which is one of my favorite places to be disrupted.

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