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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A broken country elected a broken leader.

America was already broken, that’s why trump got elected. Everything from education to financial security is an ongoing disaster. Then trump & co. destroyed the rest.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is a symptom of a problem that’s been brewing since the heritage foundation formed in the 1970s.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 23 points 1 day ago

No, when the American Civil War was ended without ending all of the enemy leadership. Giving clemency to traitors who are fundamentally evil, was and is a foolish thing to do.

If there is a 2nd American Civil War, it is a lesson worth remembering.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

The USA has been falling apart since 1975 and voting for MAGA, not once, but twice is accelerating the process.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The New York Times is partly responsible for this. The bullshit centrist coverage by mainstream media allowed the Democrats to shift to the right, which led to Hillary and her loss.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Seriously, NY Times and all of Mass Media gave us Trump by sane washing his absolute batshittery for clicks.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You'll never convince me that Elon didn't rig the election.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

He literally paid people to vote for trump. In the open.

Nobody needs to be convinced of that. That is a fact. What you need to do is convince the people in power that that should be a punishable offense. But he put the people on power on power, so why would they punish him.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He definitely influenced it. Like, massively. But directly, hands on....? Yeah maybe lol

Seriously, though, i wish we knew. On character judgement and history and intent and everything? Yes 100% absolutely. But have evidence? Hard to investigate with Nazis running almost all of the government.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But directly, hands on…? Yeah maybe lol

They'll never know

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is that a puppet? Why does his face look like a race horse's ass? Do you think billionaire blood tastes different? Why is his torso so big? Why don't his eyes look alive?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do you think billionaire blood tastes different?

What do you think the chances are that society is ready to find out?

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

If only there had been a recount, even any small investigation

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Naw. America stopped pretending when it reelected Trump.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

(Nick cage "you don't say" meme)

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (7 children)

We broke it giving him a first chance.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 12 points 2 days ago

This. When he won for the first time it was clear US is not a serious country anymore. Everyone just kept pretending it is for as long as they could.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

America didn't give Trump a second chance. That implies he was caught and convicted, and punished for something he did wrong.

He did not spend a single day in jail. His sentence in New York was effectively commuted.

He was never even charged at the federal level.

He was allowed to continue his tyranny.

Because Democrats refused to actually hold him to account.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because Democrats refused to actually hold him to account.

because they don't want to set any precedents for their own fuckery.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

It's all gotta go

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago (20 children)

Gosh.. Who enabled this I wonder. What major informers of voters was a key proponent of 'actually Trump is probably a better choice than Biden'.

Fuck.. if only we had the capability to search the past for answers.

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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 days ago

The US put a gun to its head in 2016. In 2024, it pulled the trigger.

[–] rossman@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's pulling the bandaid off. The US was already on its way to being the capitalist beast it is. Getting eyes on this is great and gives the chance for other countries to get more leverage.

And the folks that weren't planning on waking up got their call.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

capitalist beast

I agree with the sentiment but this phrasing in this era makes it sound like a good thing. May I suggest monster?

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

A Project 2029 cannot be a collection of Democratic Party agenda items. It must articulate a broad new conception of the nation’s political order — one that will guide the way a future Democratic-led government might wield power. Above all, Democrats must have a plan for reconstruction — for building something new on the wreckage of what President Trump, MAGA and the Republican Party have wrought — not restoration of what was.

The whole article puts eloquent prose to the thoughts in my head (looking from outside the US) as to what the USA needs to recover post-Trump; it's more than striving to going back to normal.

The issue is that centrist Democratic voices have been kind of developing their vision by committee over any aims to make it cohesive and comprehensive. In my view the plan has to recognize and tackle these three things:

  • Internal complacency within the Democratic party to do good things for people rather than just talk about them
  • Reforming the outdated systems that simply relied on trust that the system wouldn't corrupt itself or overlook corruption.
  • Fixing the destruction caused by the Trump administration, then taking steps to prevent a cult like Congress and a bought-and-paid-for judiciary to surrender the republic to the executive.

The important thing is you can't grandfather in the corruption while you fix it.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

The important thing is you can't grandfather in the corruption while you fix it.

100% this (from an Americanist's perspective). Just think of slavery and how it was enshrined in the constitution despite being on the way out. You had to have a whole-ass civil war, shooting and all, to fix it. And arguably still didn't, cf. the pervasiveness of Confederate nostalgia and the prison industrial complex.

The same forces that successfully lobbied to keep slavery going are lobbying to keep systemic corruption going. Telling you at every opportunity in all the media outlets they bought that it's the American way, baby!

The only solution to this mess is to finally redefine who "We the People" actually are. If it's still going to be a bunch of rich white dudes with an aversion to taxes, woe betide you.

Of course that raises the question who would have the authority to perform this redefinition and how they would gain it. Barring a bona fide revolution, I just don't see it at this point.

Thoughts and prayers from Europe.

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[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

My will to live (edit: In the US).

They broke my will to live (edit: In the US).

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