We noticed when Musk was promising "Full self driving" to "come out by the end of the year" every year for over a decade now.
this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2026
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For all the scientific discoveries we’ve done and the scientific achievements we have made the humans not in a scientific or engineering field are remarkably irrational and emotional.
…is what I used to say during the meme stock era. Now I would call a significant slice of the human race outright hysterical. These are the direct descendants of “burn the witch”.
How so many people could deify an obvious blowhard for so long is incomprehensible.
Some 20 or 30 years ago, before the internet became so everything and I was young, I was pretty stoked on the guy.
I'll never know for sure if he was always a prick with a very good PR team, or if he just turned shitheel along the way
PR team.
He was an "angel" investor who dropped money on companies, then if they took off kicked out the founders and wrote them out of the company history as much as possible.
Oh the scientists and engineers are nuts too, we're just taught to be good at setting it aside when in our areas of expertise
People have deified blowhards since time immemorial. Most people are cowards. They only want to ride the coattails of the biggest strongman they can find. Only difference is that physical strength is pretty meaningless in politics (and has been since the invention of guns), so being a strongman is just being a blowhard.
Couldn't have happened to a ~~nicer guy~~ bigger fascist asshole.
Good thing they told us. Would never have figured it out from all the murder.
At yet as a pedestrian I’m essentially part of teslas beta testing. I didn’t opt in to being smashed by a fugly as fuck tetrahedron.
we also did not opt in to being recorded by these companies. It's different, but it has a long term effect.
Yeah, I demand to be smashed by a hot tetrahedron
Would smash
Hot tetrahedrons are in your area. Chat lines are standing by!
Just throwing it out there that nothing about Teslas valuation makes sense^1^ without being first to market with self driving, and with a real moat around it.
1: brain got ahead of the fingers and forgot to write the critical modifier.
Maybe I could understand what you mean if you make a proper sentence from it.
Edited for clarity. I mean that nothing about Tesla's valuation makes sense without them being first to market with self driving, and also some time/ runway to have first mover advantage. Its a valuation famously detached from reality.
And they aren't. From what I've heard their self-driving is bogus, which is also the target of the article.
I think by now if you're still holding TSLA and aren't an index tracker, you've drunk the kool-aid and very little is going to shake you out of it.
It makes sense when you see Teslas for what they are. They are a status symbol. They represent apartheid, colonialism, oligarchy, child exploitation and genocide. Whenever you see someone driving one, they are proudly stating that is what they support. The more they show support for those things without consequence signals it is open season for exploitation. Now we have an entire financial system built on exploitation. So when you see a high valuation for a company that makes it their symbol, it means the system would not exist without those ideas.
No. Lots of people bought them before it became public known what a shitshow Musk is. They bought them because they wanted to limit their environmental impact, the cars were fairly cheap (with the tax credit), and they had a new tech cool factor.
Now their valuation is in flux and people don't want to buy them for multiple reasons including all the bad shit you listed, but let's be real here, they can't sell it for an equivalent vehicle and a lot of people don't have the money to go without transportation for work or school to make a political statement.
If you buy a Tesla now? Yeah. I'd agree you're cosigning all that bad shit. But there's lot of people still driving them who can't afford to just buy another vehicle who didn't know and aren't doing that.
Whenever you see someone driving one, they are proudly stating that is what they support.
Thats become clear over time. I dont think your assertion is reasonable. Lots of people bought them because they were cool cars that were about to be self driven, and Elon's nuttery and douchebaggery became clear only a few years ago.
You still have a Tesla, huh? Did you just wake up to Elon's douchery yesterday? You'd have to be driving around a Tesla that you've owned for over 8 years to not have known at the time you got it. That would put you into a small category of maybe 5%, but let's say 10% to be safe, of all Tesla owners. If the odds are 9 out of 10 owners are Nazi supporters, but you say you can't say any are cause one might not be.. well, sucks to be you cause Tesla owners are Nazi supporters. If you afforded a Tesla, you can trade it for something else that isn't the symbol of a Nazi supporter.
Well. yeah. I do. And when i bought it in 2021 I knew he was a spoiled douche from his thai cave rescue incident and his denial of vaccines, but I didnt appreciate the bottomless douchery that became more clear since then with his participation of politics that came about in 2022 when he acquired twitter. Or his nazi stuff.
Rich douches I get. Politically interfering rich douches is where it triggers warnings in my head. so yeah. It was a mixture of my not paying attention and not seeing his arc inevitably going into politics. I regret buying it. To be fair its been a good car, once you get used to vastly lowered expectations of it not being full self driving, which is why I bought it. I'm older and dont know how long I can keep driving myself. So I suppose I was highly biased to trust. Not driving is going to suck. I live in a swampy climate.
From what I understand Tesla is a car company only on the eye of us, in paper Tesla are spyware in wheel and that’s from where the money comes from
Thanks!
Interesting they say that in advance of each public demo, employees "worked long hours mapping routes and training the software on specific hazards to make the company’s self-driving technology appear more capable than it really is*
Tesla owners: no shit.
Not all unfortunately. Brother in law is very much drinking musk's flavoraid.
QUICK! Somebody get this man a trillions dollars!
I cant wait until Elon and Bezos race to develop corporate nuclear "technology"!
That can't be right. Self-driving was, at most, two years away over a decade ago. The world's richest, and therefore smartest since money is a 1:1 proxy for intelligence, could not have been wrong about this. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to catch the giga-loop to my launch to Mars Base 5 while my digital assistant definitely doesn't delete all my family photos.
as a motorcyclist, i give all teslas a wide berth and put as much distance between me and them as possible as quickly as possible
We know.
Well maybe they shouldn't cheap out and should start using lidars, and not only cameras.
I agree! The lidar seemed to give it a huge advantage to avoiding the wile.e.coyote problems.
i know people who have BRAGGED to me about how it's driven them home, shit faced drunk!
Problem with these things is they will work 80-90% of the time. Especially in good conditions. But if anything odd happens…
Elon's busy building a Dyson Sphere to host data centers for the multi-planet species' AI needs, stop pestering him.
No shit Sherlock, maybe read the countless articles about the crashes.
i saw a cyber cab tooting along today with a brodude behind the wheel. pathetic. they lost the self driving race and utterly failed to catch up, listen to anyone in the company competent to solve the problem, or simply pivot.