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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No, we didn't lose.

We surrendered.

And you know what? Sure. That's the right move. We shouldn't have fucking invaded them to begin with.

Fucking Trump. What a goddamn moronic dumbass he is.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ok yes but… isn’t surrendering claiming you lost?

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can't lose a war if you never call it a war.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

True, but correct us if we’re wrong we’re not 100% sure in this part; wasn’t it a declared war? At least from Iran?

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[–] pigup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What a goddamn ~~moronic dumbass he is~~ prolific executor and efficient implementer of putin's and xi's blackmail demands on him

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you have to have shame to be blackmailed. We all know what trump did, he doesn't give a shit.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bro, there is video and picture evidence this guy joyously ritualistically torturing, raping, and killing children and babies.

In case you you haven't had your soul ripped out yet, go on a little quest to find out what "u9 red pizza party" means in the Epstein files.

He's not running away from shame. He's running away from the death penalty.

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[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 138 points 3 days ago (22 children)

Don't forget, this war was very likely initiated by Netanyahu. All they managed to do was make Iran stronger, what a bunch of fucking morons.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 82 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, that wasn't the only outcome. Iran got richer and the world got to see that the military might of the USA is much less mighty than they want the world to know.

[–] Dhs92@piefed.social 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you fill the upper ranks with yes-men

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 55 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Netanyahu is not a moron, making Iran weaker wasn't his goal. Forever war was, to have a foil to play for domestic political purposes.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

Not to mention Gaza and the West Bank has been out of the news cycle. The colonists have been doing some heinous shit since the war happened.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It's his "keeping himself out of jail" plan. Just like with Thwump. The only way not to go to jail is to stay President.

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[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no, that's not their sole achievement.

Israel has occupied territories in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Irak. And will likely annex some areas excusing it with ,,national security interests". In reality the greater aim seem to be ,,greater israel" which covers the whole are promised to them in some obscure book.

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[–] o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

Great, now that that's done... Can we get back to the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES (TM) ?

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (8 children)

He may be a dumb loser but don't forget he's also in the Epstein files.

[–] GarboDog@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

What a dumb ass in Epstein files loser

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[–] FukOui@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dumb loser that was voted in TWICE. That says more about the people also

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

He loves dumb losers just like him. He said so.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

MoU or not, an unstable region has been rendered even more dangerous by the unforced war of choice launched and America. The world will be coping with its repercussions for months, if not years.

Yeah, the Middle East is inherently unstable and then this totally unrelated foreign meddling happened. ::eyeroll::

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Man who would have thought that the most incompetent and unqualified demented rapist to ever hold the office would be played like a fucking fiddle.

[–] mgrecca2026@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

he is the only idiot out of all the surviving US presidents to agree to Netanyahu’s idea of bombing Iran

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

usa could have won the war but trump had a date with a tween at a very crucial juncture in the negotiations and missed a "war winning" opportunity. /s

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 days ago

We got a black eye and we deserved it. Someone should bloody our nose, too, to make sure we got the message. Fucking stupid.

[–] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Americans, especially the Government, all have a collective delusion that the United States place in the world is just the way it was right after WW2 and nothing will ever change it. Over the next decade or so, reality will continue setting in...

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Operation Epic Failure. The primary shows was in the southern Lebanon and the West Bank, while the MAGA led fiasco was the side show.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (9 children)

The problem now is that Mr Trump has endowed Iran with a far more useful option than any nuclear device: the effective weaponisation of the Strait of Hormuz. This is a weapon of mass economic destruction of unique power. It was given satisfactory proof of use during the conflict, when not even US armed forces and a naval counter-blockade could prevent an enfeebled Tehran from taking the world economy hostage.

Nukes are defensive, this seems to work for both defence and offence

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[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can we send them trump for a sign of good will?

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

Don't think they want the guy.

[–] Astronut@lemmy.zip 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

America has lost its war with reality! The morons are winning with stupidity.

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[–] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

300 Billion for nothing other than paying the Military industrial complex.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago

I'm happy with this result. I was rooting against America for the whole conflict.

I am rooting against America in general.

America has a big ego and is subservient to Israel. It needs to be humbled so it can stop flexing its nuts and start taking care of its own people.

I say this as one of those people in America watching America punish transwomen instead of combating food insecurity...

[–] stevebot980@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I disagree, America has Not lost "it's war" with Iran, trump is an Operative working Against the United States and successfully got Iran a better deal Against the United States and our official stance on Iran. He is a traitor that worked against the US on behalf of our enemies to their benefit.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nice copping for the shitty american empire

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Both can be true. The US is a shitty empire that allowed a foreign asset to take the helm and sabotage it.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

Hey buddy, the "this is not who we are!" nonsense has always been ridiculous, but is particularly insane after Trump was elected, for the second time, with the popular vote.

The fact that you think your enemies are external is part of what makes America so able to be evil.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iran gained political ground, and America lost political ground, and has to pay $300 million on top of it. That's pretty much the definition of losing.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Billion. It's a thousand times worse than $300 million.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The US has been on the losing side of every armed conflict it’s been involved with for the past 80 years.

Its current “leadership” believes that streak is at least twice that.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I’m happy we lost but sad that I will be paying for reparations with my tax dollars.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Not a war. Lol

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The war isn't over, not by a long shot. Memorandums of understanding on negotiating terms notwithstanding.

Israel will blow it up, and the US and Israel have such maximaist demands Iran will never agree to them. Israel also doesn't care about those demands so much as want continued war and to turn lebanon into gaza for domestic political reasons. I wouldn't expect any new Israeli government to be much better either.

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