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Stuck in the machine (slrpnk.net)

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We need to get back to being human beings and human doings

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[–] BioDriver@lemmy.world 33 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I see all the reels of Europeans coming to the US for the World Cup and they’re shocked how nice we are, how good the food is, etc etc. I have to remind myself that they’re visiting and that yes, we are nice on average and we don’t all live like an episode of The Wire, they don’t have to experience our job culture, health care, car requirement, extreme weather, and batshit insane and corrupt political system. Yes this is a great place to visit, but your life here is very much dictated by the hand you were dealt at birth.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

it's not just being stuck in it. if you voluntarily leave it, you're labeled aberrant.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

... and my entire American life has been an oscillation between being indescribably furious, knowing that 'it doesnt have to be this way' and then laughing uproariously at people being surprised by the astoundingly predictable outcome of literally every one burning out and crashing out.

This never could work, the way we do things... its inhuman, and insane.

It is no measure of sanity to be well adjusted to deeply disturbed society.

We're just now finally experiencing the part where gravity resumes affecting Wile E Coyote.

... but we have a very long way to still fall.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (4 children)

As a neruospicy person that's also an INTJ on the Meyer Briggs scale, let me tell you that "infuriating" doesn't even come CLOSE to describing it.

Like I've spent 30 YEARS thinking of how to fix this busted system, read stoic, humanist, capitalist and socialist philosophy, Examined several world religions, studied most of european history, and am up to date on most science,... in short, I'm not a "know it all," I make it my business to be well versed.

So when I come up with an idea of how to really get down to the nuts and bolts of the issues, only to be told that my solutions would never work, the only thing I have to say to everyone is

"Not with that attitude." As I scream internally.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently I live in the wrong Southern Europe

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 88 points 1 day ago (1 children)

American here - we're conditioned from birth to think not working as hard as possible to make money for somebody else is lazy.

[–] immutable@lemmy.zip 26 points 23 hours ago

I’m in the fortunate position that I could tell my chronically ill spouse to just not work.

Took them literally years to work through the guilt of not working, the capitalist conditioning of work being your source of value was so strong.

Of all the things I’ve accomplished in my life, knowing that my beautiful, creative, loving spouse gets to spend their days not being crushed by the capitalist machine is my most cherished.

[–] Dry_Monk@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The comments in here are largely centered around "How can I get out?" Or alternately "Getting out is not possible."

I came across this post last year, and it gave me the kick in the pants to get out myself.

https://crazypeople.online/post/6720157

Been out of the states since January. I started in Portugal and I can confirm how relaxed it is there. I'm in Morocco now and have met the most kind and welcoming people I've ever known. Very relaxed here as well. I don't currently have plans to return.

It may or may not be possible for you depending on your specific situation. If you are in the "How can I get out?" camp, I'd encourage you to think seriously about making it happen. Look at how you could radically change things. Sell everything, quit your job, and crash at a family member's house. The barriers are likely lower than you imagine, and the upsides are dramatic.

[–] TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out squats as an option too. It is sometimes bad, but usually super mild. People on speed raving a lot. If that's what it takes to get the first few months out of the way, fuck it

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The better post that I saw was someone saying how ex-USA citizens jumped at loud sounds because we fear gunfire and Europeans took them in stride.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 hours ago

Lol, being afraid to die. Where in america do they live, Hawaii?

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 126 points 1 day ago (8 children)

There are places in America that are like this, you have to be able to afford it though.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Yes, the naivety of OOP not realizing that southern Europe is some of the most expensive real estate in the world and that the Americans moving there are moving with hoarded wealth is hilarious to me. "Let them eat cake" energy

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What are you talking about? Real estate prices in southern Europe vary widely. Centers of the main cities on the coast are very expensive, everything else not so much. You will find the same lifestyle in Marbella and Cordoba but the prices are completely different. Not to mention all the smaller towns and villages with lots of real estate for sale. "Hoarded wealth" my ass.

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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Last time I checked there were actually non-rich people in southern Europe.

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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Yeah, give Mexico City a try. It's very much the same, only not so financially out of reach. You can get an okay house there for like $70,000 so you can buy a $2.5 million mansion. It's up to you and what kind of money you have.

I'm just coming back off of three weeks there and holy crap what a difference between America and Mexico.

Every street corner has foot traffic. There are shops every two city blocks for a 20 mile radius. There's a variety and art and culture, and everyone's just taking it easy. No one's in a big rush, even when their traffic is absolutely insane, it's insanity that's dealt with with a logical mind.

Culturally, America is 100 years behind Mexico City.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or be so poor and in such a backwater place that time has no meaning.

[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 3 points 12 hours ago

That's where my van's going.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

So... two hour lunches. But I thought they still had a 40 hour workweek in most places. So do they work 8 to 6? Or is the 2nd hour of lunch technically work time?

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Really depends on where you work. I'd say the vast majority does not have 2h lunches. That only happens in pretty relaxed jobs or for upper management, who probably bill it as work meeting anyway. Probably not all that different from America.

Edit: At least in Germany. Italy or Spain might might be more relaxed.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 20 hours ago

imagine living in europe and wanting to turn it into the USA. That is what a lot of conservative and liberal politicians feel like to me.

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The machine is not for everyone - and we should have a system that allows people to have a balanced life. But we should not punish or prevent the people who like working like that. It takes all kinds...

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think the only people anyone's wanting to punish is billionaires.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think the consideration is that, in moving away from the mandatory hustle "culture"/grind, care is taken not to stigmatize it for the people for whom it is a desirable lifestyle. Culture has a way of overcorrecting.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is there an actual way to preempt a swinging cultural pendulum before it changes direction?

The obvious answer is to try to convince people, but that doesn't account for the reason (I think) that pendulum is getting more extreme in recent decades, which has a lot to do with corporate media and corporate social media. I hate to be the boring one who always connects the dots back to billionaires, but I really think it we got rid of billionaires we'd have a lot less to worry about culturally.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We're all just spitballing here unless someone is secretly a sociologist, but I do think social media accelerates cultural swings/overcompensations. Social media, and its focus on appearances, encourages a low-specificity sorta purity testing. If you aren't visibly conforming, at the very least you'll be inundated with media of how "this" is the correct thing. And that's assuming you aren't actively harangued by people pushing conformity. So "the correct thing" gets positively reinforced and quickly builds momentum.

I think the only recourse is educating people to not just absorb everything their eyes and ears ingest, i.e. critical thinking. Which doesn't seem feasible without a revamp of education.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I totally get the impulse to say "we solve this by making people smarter", and when it works I'm over the moon. But it's literally the hardest solution to achieve in a fascist society where all the major media outlets are co-opted and the schools are all chronically underfunded.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The only other answer depends on where you[impersonal] lie on the topic of governance. Because you'd need some kind of overarching organization to feed mediating/moderating media to the population (trying to sidestep the word "propaganda" although that is what it would be).

Either the population becomes smart enough to ameliorate unreasoned shifts in culture on an individual basis or the populace entrusts that responsibility to someone over them.

In-line edit: I guess there is also the possibility of a sort of "herd immunity", where enough educated individuals are countering misinformation and overreactions in their community to achieve the same effect.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Hard to say. I think anyone trying to force anything on a society usually deserves to be shot into the sun. Maybe the only morally flawless way to create a better world is to expand your (impersonal) own circle of empathy to its maximum, and when you get a chance, try to help others to do the same.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 51 points 1 day ago (6 children)

i am one generation too late to get dual citizenship in finland via bloodline, and i will never get over that. i hate it here

[–] idegenszavak@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You are not too late, you can still get finnish citizenship the same way as every other immigrant: you have to live there for 8 years, and learn the beautiful agglutinative language!

https://migri.fi/en/citizenship-for-adults

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 13 hours ago

I read moving to Finland is really difficult now. They simply don't hire immigrants.

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Can… can I move to southern Europe?

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[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's really just laughing at us at this point.

There is very little chance of most of us escaping to Europe. Every program that I've looked at for moving over there has been entirely closed within a day or two due to the amount of applications being sent in.

[–] TheparishofChigwell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Your mind is under control, your defeatism is maxed out

Check this out

If you're a U.S. citizen, you can move to the Netherlands under the Dutch-American Friendship Treaty (DAFT). You need to start or register a business in the Netherlands (freelancing counts), maintain at least €4,500 in the business, and apply for a DAFT residence permit. The permit is initially granted for 2 years and can be renewed as long as you're actively running the business. It's one of the easiest ways for Americans to legally live in the Netherlands as a self-employed person.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 day ago

Just got back from southern France. Yeah this lifestyle here is bullshit.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Americans, 20+ years ago I joined the Peace Corps. Extended, spent 3 years in a wild, amazing place in West Africa. Met my spouse, loved the experience. Strongly recommend. Over the last 20+ years, been out of the States for 10+. It's a springboard.

Right now, recruitment is down. A lot. The bar is citizenship, be 20-something (technically 18, but you need some something experience and not really fresh from high school), and don't have a totally jacked up body. You won't be doing shit for sleepy T, like how I didn't do shit for W.

You want Southern Europe? SE Europe is awesome. Albania, Kosovo, MKD, all options. Also Moldova, if you like wine. So are Armenia and Georgia, which are also amazing.

The option is there and real. Free to apply.

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