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[–] Monument@piefed.world 47 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So they ignore him for 10 days and the law goes into effect anyway.

Fucking toddler throwing a fit. Just ignore him.

[–] iknewitwhenisawit@fedinsfw.app 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He can still veto it, right?

[–] Monument@piefed.world 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He can. But that’s not the same as refusing to sign.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

Also, it passed with a veto proof majority, so unless he's able to brow beat Republicans into switching their votes when he sends it back to them it's a done deal

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 28 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

It's particularly bonkers because the bill passed with a veto-proof majority

The bill, called the 21st Century Road to Housing Act, passed 358-32 in the House. The Senate approved it Monday with similarly overwhelming bipartisan support.

So, Trump has zero leverage here. Unless he thinks, somehow, he can convince Republicans to switch sides and vote against a veto override on a bill they already voted for.

This bill is becoming law whether he supports it or not. It's also quite popular (with everyone who is not in Private Equity). Usually, he bends over backwards to be seen on the popular side of an issue. This makes no sense, even by Trump logic.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago

In his jello brain this is a power play. He got some recent primary wins, so now he's going to dare Republicans to defy him on this under the threat of a future primary challenge. The next big election after the midterms will the presidential election where he imagines he'll be the kingmaker.

I agree I think it's unlikely enough people are going to bend on this, but with how spineless Republicans have been, it would not surprise me if a whole bunch of them started making noise about it. Jesters dancing for the king.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This bill is becoming law whether he supports it or not. It's also quite popular (with everyone who is not in Private Equity).

I don't buy any Private Equity whining about this, all they need to do is spin up a few corporate shells and they'll be able to keep each one of them under the limit on single family home ownership, but they'll still be cashing subsidies for construction and enjoying the gutting of environmental regulations that came with this

The real housing reform we need is more public housing on the market owned and administered by municipal or state governments, anything short of that is just going to be putting money back into the pockets of the land barons

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That is exactly what he will do. And they will fall in line like they always do.

They can remove the dementia fuckstick at any point, but they don't. Even while he's at a new all-time low approval, even with Republican voters. And regularly failing at absolutely everything he does now. It's extremely easy to justify removing him with all these obvious and public fuckups, but they still don't.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

I don't think they can use the 25th amendment unless Vance is on board. And going into midterms with Acting President Vance might not be any more appealing to the Republicans than sticking with Trump.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He's trying for a pocket veto. It might work.

[–] b34k@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Doesn’t a pocket veto mean the law goes into effect anyway?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

The President has 10 days (excluding Sundays) to sign the bill, or veto it. If he does neither, the bill takes effect as if he had signed it -- as long as Congress is still in session.

A Pocket Veto is when the President doesn't sign a bill, and Congress is not in session when the 10 day period expires. In that case, the law will not take effect.

But, these days Congress never formally adjourns. Even when they go home, local members still hold formal sessions where nothing is done specifically to keep Congress in session. And I think even this Congress won't simply adjourn itself because Trump wants it to.

This was also a discussion when Trump nominated idiots like Matt Gaetz, who had no shot of getting confirmed. Trump wanted Congress to adjourn itself, so he could make a Recess Appointment. They declined. If they didn't roll over then, they won't now.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'd Congress stays in session it goes into effect. If Congress leaves town it doesn't.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

That's basically it, but the complex version is that if someone is appointed to receive messages then this becomes law on the 6th or 7th (i.e. in 10 days, not counting Sundays).

But, if no one is appointed for this break, then it's a pocket veto and cannot be overruled, it would require a new bill.

If Congress were in session the week of the 6th, then this wouldn't be an issue.

[–] Shortrib@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

A majority of Republican voters don’t have a photo “proof of citizenship.” A drivers license doesn’t work. So, Trump is destroying his own party.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

Selective enforcement was always the plan. They pass these laws so their brownshirts can point to them when they profile POC while waving white people through.

That's why there's so many latino maga pick-me's. They think making the cut is a matter of loyalty and not skin pigment.

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe, but somehow they’d find a way for THEM to vote…

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"You can sign up to the GOP membership on the spot, then use the Party ID number we give you!"

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm imagining all those folks who get upset over being assigned "the mark of the beast" being OK with this, even though the GOP symbol is an elephant ....

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Surely, there is no need to rise up, republicans just lost the election as Shortrib is saying...

Nothing to see here... Move along... Please just trust in the election and wait it out! IT'LL WORK!

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 hours ago

Doesn't it become law without Trump's signature anyway? Purely performative.

[–] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

This should be interesting with the whole ten day approval. Does he step in, run to his SCOTUS, cry, and find a way to over rule it? We know rules and laws don't apply to him. Or does he just babble about "dumocrats" being socialist antifa fake news pool destroying fraudulent terrorists?

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 5 points 2 hours ago

whiny little bitch