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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is one of the most effective propaganda lines to keep idiots voting for less taxes for the rich and corporations.

You didn't stop paying taxes, you started getting services and representation in your legislature in exchange for paying taxes.

Ironically, you guys pay taxes to Israel in exchange for nothing now.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

you guys pay taxes to Israel in exchange for nothing now.

Nonsense, we get free trips to the desert (god's idea of a chosen land) to go lick rocks!

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Lemmy is starting to really tire me out with constant negativity. The niche comms I sub to are mostly quiet, and the big ones it seems like everyone is at each other's throats.

This was a joke, in shitposts. I thought it was worth a chuckle, but not really worth dissection and all the negative energy.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (5 children)

When we quit paying taxes... to England.

It's a half thought, but anything sounds deep to a giant idiot.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Are people under the impression that the US revolution and independence was specifically about not paying taxes? That's some libertarian shit right there.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's the narrative pushed In alot of schools in the USA

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I distinctly remember writing some report about taxation without representation, thinking it was some super important American principle. I was real confused when I learned about Puerto Rico

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one ever accused Americans of being smart.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Ugh. How does MA have to keep reminding this part of history?

No taxation WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. Having a voice was the important part. But asking people to parse a conditional is too much.

“If you breathe mercury, jump off a bridge.”
“You’re telling me to jump off a bridge!???”

[–] homes@piefed.world 99 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

We didn’t quit paying taxes. We just quit paying unfair taxes to the Crown.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (6 children)

A reminder that the taxes in question were levied to recoup the costs of French and Indian War, which the colonists started.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And, which was largely fought (and won) in a way that dramatically benefitted the colonists.

Ever wonder why there are so many places with French names just slightly inland from the original 13 US colonies have French names?

  • Bayou La Batre, Decatur, Lapine, Leroi, Mon Louis, Dauphin Island, etc. Alabama
  • Louisville, Paris, Versailles, Montpelier, etc. in Kentucky
  • Leroy, Napoleon, Montpelier, Saint Croix, etc. in Indiana
  • Bellaire, Bellefontaine, Louisville, Marietta, etc. in Ohio
  • Dubois, Duquesne, Labelle, Fort le Boeuf, Eau Claire, etc. in Pennsylvania
  • The name "Michigan" itself (originally Ojibwe, but interpreted into French), and a whole lot of parts of that state, including Detroit
  • Ozark (aux arcs), Benoit, Bellefontaine, D'Iberville etc. in Mississippi

New France went from the Gulf of Mexico north, included all the Great Lakes, and kept going up to Hudson's Bay. American settlers couldn't go west without entering New France, so England fought a war to allow the expansion west. It won that war. The resulting treaty gave the British colonists in the Americas a huge amount of territory they could expand into, leaving only a small amount behind for France and its native allies.

The British colonists in the Americas were asked to help pay for the war that gave them that opportunity to expand west, and they rebelled. And then, after the rebellion, they decided they didn't need to abide by the terms of the British treaty with the French and took over most of the remaining land that France had been left after that war.

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[–] Denvil@piefed.world 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Quit paying ~~unfair~~ taxes to the crown

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

"No taxation without representation". If the colonies got representatives in Parliament, that flag would look mighty different.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (17 children)

Except that the British were offering that concession, and the negotiators for the colonists didn't want to take it because really the taxes and lack of representation were just an excuse.

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[–] meekah@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 3 days ago (14 children)
[–] damwab@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Then don't get the fireworks? I'm a huge advocate to just ban the entire thing worldwide anyways. Let the cities organize big shows but no private sales, it's massively wasteful for both your pockets and the environment.

[–] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You know what's also not cool. Making using fireworks illegal because it might cause a fire but don't ban the selling of fireworks.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Fireworks enthusiasts should take their fireworks to a fireworks range when they want to use them and keep them locked in a fireworks case when not in use.

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[–] callouscomic@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The U.S. literally started charging insane taxes right as the country began. They even teach Shays Rebellion in school.

[–] TheKingBee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

The whole story only makes sense through the propaganda lens, brave freedom fighters against an oppressive government taxing them for no reason.

Then you read the actual context and it's a bunch of new aristocracy high on slave money mad that the empire refuses to let them expand past the boarders established in a war that benefited them and they are now having to pay taxes for.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Wait, what idiot thinks that the 4th of July is a celebration of not paying taxes?

[–] SalamiDommie@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

Based and lib pilled

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