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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 32 minutes ago

Bro didn't have an icon for Palestine

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 65 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no! It's... European centrist?! And a rogue Free Palestine with a steel chair from the corner!

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 19 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

These are a bit too left-leaning for European centrists. Especially the 32-hour-workweek, even in the most "socialist" European countries this is a position only taken by dedicated "leftist" parties.

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

In France we have a 35 hours workweek, and our centrists fight that with all their might.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 hour ago

Imagine being so I love with the billionaires that you want less free time

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 40 minutes ago

My day job is unionized and it's 35 hours per week. 🇨🇦

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 minutes ago

In the UK I think it averages 37.5 hours for salaried jobs. I haven't looked that up.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Is it? The average work week in the Netherlands is 30 hours. That is the current status quo, not even what the "left-leaning" parties propose for the future.

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 2 points 38 minutes ago

The average work week in the Netherlands is 30 hours.

It's a skewed bullshit metric though and you can't compare it to most other countries.

It's quite normal here to have one member of a household working 40 hours and the other part-time, for example 20 hours. That's 60 hours of labour for a family and indeed 30 hours on average.

Unfortunately most statistics only include people who actually work, instead of the total potential workforce. So a traditional family where dad works 40 hours and mom stays at home will have a combined total of 40 working hours vs our 60. But because mom doesn't work she is ignored and the family counts toward the average for 40 hours. So they go into the books as hard workers and we are just lazy sobs.

The cherry on top: statistics often cut off around 60-62, while we can't retire until 67+.

Remember: there are lies, damned lies and statistics.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 12 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

If it's about the same as Germany, then the reason for that is that there are a lot of part time workers, who often don't get enough money to be able to live off it on their own (e.g. married people, single parents who also get government assistance to make up the difference). That's very different from declaring the full-time work week to be only 32 hours.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It's somewhat similar to Germany, yes, though Germany has fewer part-time workers. In Germany (where I also live) the default options are 35 or 40 hours, though it's becoming more common to have options to work less even in "full time" type of jobs.

Anyway, I doubt the "democratic socialists" in the USA want to ban working more than 32 hours, they just want people to have the same option people have in rich European countries.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 5 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Anyway, I doubt the “democratic socialists” in the USA want to ban working more than 32 hours

They want 32 hours to be legislated as 'full time' -- meaning that employers legally must pay overtime (1.5x normal wage) for any amount of time worked over 32 hours per week.

This is already the case for 40 hours, but they want to reduce the number to 32.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

If this is what they want, it's really not very well thought through. Employers can just pay the same amount for 40 hours (paying less for the initial 32 and more for the subsequent 8), and employees will have greater incentives to keep their working week at 40 instead of having more flexibility for work-life balance. This would discourage 32-hour work weeks except for those jobs where employers can easily hire more people to compensate for the 8-hour shortfall (and those jobs are very few in number).

In fact, in Europe it's usually the opposite, where overtime is more heavily taxed, so both employers and employees have incentives to keep the work week within sensible hours. In addition, overtime tends to be restricted by collective wage agreements, which, in contrast to the USA, often apply to non-union members.

[–] Doccool@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

In this case the median would be a lot more interesting than the average. Few do more than 40h (legally) but many do less -> the average always under 40. Similarly, in average men have less than 2 testicles, but >99% have 2.

If the median is 40, then it still means that over half the population have 40h weeks meaning it's the standard.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

The median employee in the Netherlands is just barely at the threshold of working full-time (defined as 35 hours or more). Few of those who work full-time cross 40 hours, and part-time can be well below 30; the average comes out to about 30.

Of those working part-time (less than 35 hours), about 12% would like to work more but has no suitable work available, so these are underemployed people working part-time.

Stats

[–] thebasementcakes@leminal.space 1 points 6 minutes ago

"None of this actually works because we pay tons of people to convince you we can't try it"

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's like when AOC was gaining popularity so they showed her platform on Fox. Showing all these good things as "bad".

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

My favorite activity for a minute now is to ask people the definitions and differences between socialism and communism. It's entertaining.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 4 minutes ago

But you're wasting their time, and yours.

Instead say, "I like this candidate. She wants to tax the rich."

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago) (1 children)

I once explained some socialism ideas on Reddit. One user called me a communist, another a Nazi. It was a very confusing pair of responses but said more than either would ever know.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 2 minutes ago

Because outside of a class room the terms are meaningless.

The PRC is still officially Communist, and has billionaires.

o0o in a similar vein, i like to ask them if they are pro fascism or anti.. reminding them that they really only get to pick one.. and watch them squirm as their programming conflicts

which is hilarious as they generally also couldnt define fascism if their life depended on it

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 26 points 2 hours ago

The horror! Won't someone think of the rich who profit from each of these vital services?!

[–] thepig@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Ahhhhhh 😱😱 they forgot about LGBTQ+ rights 🌈🦄 imagine the horrrorr

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 8 points 1 hour ago

if they had room on the graphic, it'd be there too.. but their racism runs deeper, and just think of all the black and brown people that would benefit from these policies. they don't care that "all" includes all the maga nuts, too, doesn't even register in their minds.. it's just that "those" people.. the "wrong" people.. would get something--anything, is just too much for them to handle.

[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

OK, that clinches it. I've had a feeling since the first time I saw this graphic that there was some sympathetic background worker at Fox News who purposely made the thing look as appealing as possible. "Culture war" issues are still kneejerk, hot button topics for a lot of that audience.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I find it funny that they couldn't find a pictogram for the last one.

[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

The Palestinian flag emoji exists. 🇵🇸

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 44 minutes ago

They could, but it was overruled at the last minute for being too racist even for Fox.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Watermelon emoji

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sounds good to me, what's the problem? 🥴

[–] ItsMyVault101@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago

This is some fat cat problem we are too poor to understand I guess.

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Don't tease me with a good time.