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[–] jim_v@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

Halve Life 4b confirmed.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 42 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

How about we start with 1% and see what happens.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 5 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Just the top 10000 would make a big difference already

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

alternatively we could probably do with just reducing population by every CEO/comapany owner/shareholder/leader/whoever has control that refuses to become climate neutral

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

I like this idea, fuck tax incentives and carbon credits.

You get to neutral, you shut down your business, or you die. Your choice!

[–] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 18 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

But the billionaires say we need MORE people so they have enough slaves of the colors they like!

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

It's like dogs or ball pythons. They're breeding selectively for the most desirable (to them) traits

[–] funkajunk@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

Gotta have their favorite colorway

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Thanos could have doubled the amount of space and resouces in the universe just as easily.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Just to get swallowed up by the same 1%?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Actually scientists in the 1970s were saying we need to do what we can to stabilize AT the 4 billion we were at then. See Limits to Growth and related studies. Cutting back now would help, but far more damage has been caused thanks to everything we've done including but not limited to population pressures than if we had heeded the warnings then and changed our direction. Some feedbacks are probably unstoppable now, no matter what we cut back.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That was primarily about the ability to provide food. The same scientists back then would have said we can't even reach this population level while eating meat.

They were correct until we advanced agricultural science and found ways to more than double our food production.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 2 points 7 minutes ago

It was about estimating the effect of continued world population growth on the world's carrying capacity. It's true that it did not have a lot of other variables at play, one important one being climate change. So if anything it was a best case of just a few known parameters, and not all the ones we've affected, many that wouldn't even be known then. The model's projections hold up well enough to have been a wake up call to do something drastically different. And we didn't.

The fact that we now recognize a date each year where Earth has reached its carrying capacity and that date steadily gets earlier should suggest they were right too. Along with plenty of recent studies that say the absolute maximum is probably around 11 billion (so maybe you are a bit correct in saying our tech has given us a bit more room), but the optimum population from these studies is around 2.5 billion.

It does depend on both the minimum standard of living being used as well as how well resources are distributed. If we set almost everyone to the lowest levels now existing, perhaps we could get a few billion more. If it doesn't spike the death rates and reduce birth rates.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

Almost like its not a population problem, its a logistics problem.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 9 minutes ago

Always has been.

[–] Nofearfrontier@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Are these scientists with us on the room right now?

[–] lan@meetiko.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

bro its a meme for light chuckles. nobody said that seriously.