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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 68 points 2 days ago (37 children)

"Far left"

"Tankie"

Choose one

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 53 points 2 days ago

The tankies describe themselves as such.

To not be associated with them, more actual far-left adherents need to actively disavow the tankies.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tankies:

Edit: actually i think i wouldn't put them exactly in that X axis position, i am sleepy so ain't gonna try to understand well their exact position so that's good enough

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Unthreatening and respectful, they just did a nuclear weapons test like a week ago

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I heard recently on a podcast a friend put on after we broke a 'length of time arguing about music' rule that 'horseshoe theory exists and is real, but only for idiots'

This is the truest thing I have ever heard.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

It's what happens when you don't have the the ability to analyze through dialectical materialism. It's confusing when suddenly the fascist mad man is seemingly taking the same stance as "tankies" on normalizing relations with a non violent country who's only crime has been being victim of a genocidal campaign over half a century ago. Trump likes Kim for the same reason that he likes Xi. He thinks they are actually the evil dictators that the US makes them out to be. He wants to be an evil dictator. He will always respect any leader that panders to his ego and treats him like a leader. Ironically, Western countries are bad at this. It's why he hates europe. Hell, Mamdani was smart enough to play a similar game of charisma. That's the dialectics. At least from what we are hearing from Trump. It's why he says things like this.

The main material reason is that the defeat in Iran has made any chance of the US maintaining its military in East Asia laughable. It cannot maintain its illusion of China being a threat. If China was going to invade Taiwan it would have done it. Instead, China cut its oil imports to help all of its Asian neighbors. The dream of a "shift to Asia" that happened under Obama is gone. The US power in West Asia is dying and they are pulling weapons and troops from East Asia to desperately attempt to hold onto it. They are stuck with capital invested in a region that they are showing absolute failure and weakness in. With capital investments in Israel and the military industrial complex Trump is being pressured to just "bring things back to how they were". They never will be. It may take a long time before that is admitted. I expect another round of bombing campaigns and maybe even a desperate small ground troop invasion to attempt to save face and "claim the strate". But this likely will fail and remain in this denial state for some time; ending through a different president most likely.

He will continue to deny the defeat and soon desperately shift to the one region of the world US capital can continue to exploit: South America.

Some of this is me mixing in my own predictions. Feel free to critize that. But, we obviously all know "JDPON Don" falls into the correct position sometimes, often because of his own ego and the shifting global relations in the face of a dying empire.

TLDR: The "tankies" are against American Imperialism. American Imperialism is losing its power and is forced by material circumstances to take actions that "tankies" would consider good. Trump is appealing to the "strong man" in Kim to make his weak move (failed Iran war causing troops and weapons to be removed) look like strength.

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My horseshoe theory is that fascists are immune to horseshoes. I propose to launch horseshoes at Mach 4 at fascists to test this hypothesis (fascists take no damage from horseshoes being the null) and await positive response from the IRB

[–] MoreZombies@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

How does one get so far left that they are a "tankie"? I feel like I am very left leaning, but I would punch a tankie in the head.

is my understanding wrong? I don't get how you could be "Far Left" (In that they would be against Authoritarian Governments like the Nazis) yet also a "Tankie" (Which embraces and supports Authoritarian Governments).

Help me?

[–] Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bacuse left and right - socialism and capitalism - have nothing to do with authoritarianism, which itself is a spurious concept. All systems are authoritarian; you're not allowed to form a communist state under liberalism, you're not allowed to form a government under anarchism, etc. You're forced to play by the rules of the hegemonic system, authoritarian is just a label for whether you personally like those rules.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Specifically, it was made to separate Hitler from the right and pawn him off to the left.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is honestly pretty simple:

US = bad -> anti US = good

Add to that the idea that revolutions are inherently violent and killing of some traitors is fine and you have your tankie. For dictators being somewhat anti American is a pretty good strategy. The US propaganda is pro democracy and that is a great enemy for a dictator, the US also does a lot of evil shit and the fact that your country is poor is all to blame on the US and absolutely not on the dictators stealing everything. That btw is also why "socialism" never worked for tankies. As in it would have been perfect, but the US destroyed it.

As for many of the best stories, there is a good bit of truth in it. As in the US actually does a lot of evil shit and 100% fights leftist movements. However it is not always the bad guy and two bad guys can fight each other and do so all the time.

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[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (11 children)

What a pedo rapist little bitch trump is

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