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"Far left"
"Tankie"
Choose one
The tankies describe themselves as such.
To not be associated with them, more actual far-left adherents need to actively disavow the tankies.
Tankies:
Edit: actually i think i wouldn't put them exactly in that X axis position, i am sleepy so ain't gonna try to understand well their exact position so that's good enough
you use political compass in big 26.
Sorry, that doesn't play into the both-sides false-equivalency rhetoric. Please delete this comment.
You can be left and authoritarian. At least outside of the US you can, in America all politics get squashed into a single binary choice, so it seems weird.
You can also be left and be right, and dumb and wise, and black and white, all simultaneously! Up is down, back is forwards, authoritarian is left!
No, left is against hierarchy
anarchism isnt the only branch of left, similarly how libertarianism isnt the only branch of right. You guys are too confident for associating yourself with a vastly non existent ideology
Schrödinger's political chessboard
It's not a binary. I'm against hierarchal class structures but I still think we need specialists making rules about shit like environmental protection.
No, left is socialist (in the broad sense, opposed to individualism)
*Anarchism has entered the chat*
Yea just gonna full sail disagree with you on this claim.
Many types of anarchism fit under the socialist umbrella
Yes, I agree, which would disagree with the other comment's point that socialism inherently opposes individualism.
Interesting. Where/when are they not opposed?
Edit: Noting that I didn't mean that they are mutually exclusive outside of social structure.. You can take individual actions in a socialist society. The question is just around which is the core principle of the organisation of society.
Edit 2: to me anarchy isn't inherently individualistic, it is just opposed to power-over social structures. You can have a voluntary socialism. Look at Chiapas, for instance.
As much as i know, anarchy is not indivualist since the entire point of anarchism should be that the community works togheter to do stuff
While respecting the rights and autonomy of the individual. It is entirely about respecting individual freedom while also encouraging work together as a community.
so its a fell good circlejerk with no framework on how to organize and overthrow capitalism. Hah
Tell me you know nothing about Anarchist philosophy or history with explicitly saying so.
you still didnt explain
This whole quote seem like motivation speech
Try reading a book and you'll get those answers explained in full. I'm not gonna sit here and paraphrase volumes of anarchist theory just so you can play judge nitpicking the specifics. I have explained my position well enough. If you want specifics, go read the source materials.
Kropotkin, Graeber, Bakunin, Proudhon, Luxembourg, Parsons, etc ... All have explained the mechanisms of decentralized resistance and horizontally structured systems of authority as well as the incentive structures of how people decide what to labor on and organize with their communities to ensure desired services are rendered alongside how this change of incentives and authoritative structure would counteract reactionary efforts.
FYI, that quote is from renowned anthropologist, David Graeber, who wrote multiple books on these very subjects. You should try reading them. You'll learn something.
lol. Read Lenin and Stalin - People who actually did something in real life.
You mean those who started an authoritarian regime who committed untold acts of oppression upon the working class they claimed to represent? Whose only reason they succeeded was due to the anarchists who helped build the revolution in the first place only to be stabbed in the back by your idols?
Get bent tankie.
Bolsheviks succeded due to anarchists? lmfao
anways, symbol of anarchism is usually a graffiti under a bridge, flag of marxism leninism has been flown over big nations and once encapsulated 1/3rd of humanity
Thats the difference.
Telle you don't understand what Anarchism is without explicitly telling me.
You're a joke.
The majority of human history is anarchist in nature. Far longer than your little authoritarian bullshit flag. You'd know this if you'd have read Graeber.
Anarchism is about resolving the apparent contradictions between individual rights/responsibilities and collective rights/responsibilities.
Victor Serge & George Woodcock enter the chat.
It's about a community of individuals. The individual is celebrated, but in a way that's far more akin to Mr. Rodgers (you're special and unique just like everyone else) rather than of say a heroic society (where the ability to command attention and stand uniquely above others is valued).
An anarchist would say that you need to figure out how you can best contribute to your community in a way that fits with your unique self rather than taking away from it. It's akin to a family, where various things need to be done and it's up to the members of the household to figure out how to get it done in a way most associated with everyone's wants and needs, but also in the discussion are the nice to haves like someone may grow an herb garden, while another household may decide nobody wants it enough to do it or push for it.
I thought libertarians were against hierarchy
We have nothing against hierarchy as long as everybody agrees who is in charge and why and nobody is coerced into it.
Tankies are what happens when you go all the way left and all the way up into Authoritarianship
end up being right wing. authoritarian in nature is often conservative leaning.
Right wing and left wing are economic labels communism and capatalism. Right wing people tend to cluster towards the authoritarian side of the authority and liberty scale but so do left wingers.
Yeah but right wing in tankie states were called the nomenclature, the old guard
We clearly are having a communication issue here. Right wing has meant pro-capitalism for over 200 years
mint > meant I blame speech to text.
The distinction between left and right wing comes from the French Revolution. Everyone who wanted to keep the King lined up on the right. Everyone who wanted to try sonething new lined up on the left. Leftism is certainly inherently anti-monarchical, and I would argue also inherently anti-hierarchical. Tankies are right-wing communists; that's why left wing communists tend to disagree with them.
right wing is support of capitalism left wing is support of Communism You're not going to change the definition by selectively copy pasting the answer that you got by googling the definition of left right spectrum. You are conflating conservatism with capitalism they are two separate human conditions.
I can also copy paste from Google
Conservatism is a social and political philosophy focused on preserving traditional values, social order, and established institutions. Capitalism is an economic system based on private ownership, market competition, and profit. While often closely allied in modern politics, they represent distinct concepts that can sometimes conflict
I do want to stress that I'm not calling you stupid. I'm just trying to let you know that the words you are using do not mean what you think they mean.
These words mean five different things to four different people, but I'll bite. Was the Meiji restoration 'left' or 'right'?
lenin was anti left-com, its ideology of twitter kids.