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[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 57 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

You can't rehabilitate that guy's image for anyone who wasn't already open to that idea. The problem is that we have no sociological or political way to dissuade them from holding that opinion publicly.

We need to punch more nazis. Hard.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

The problem is that we have no sociological or political way to dissuade them from holding that opinion publicly.

Might even argue that we've created a number of powerful incentives to encourage people to hold the opinion publicly.

[–] obvs@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Or we can acknowledge that the idea of freedom of speech is incompatible with the idea that billionaires can exist and own media.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nice of the Atlantic to catch up after 10 years.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's not their first article on the topic.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 4 points 5 days ago

In fact it's one of about 8 things they talk about consistently.

[–] popsalottacornsyrup@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.

[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

That's racist. I hate all the nazis equally.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

F that - Grandson of a WWII Purple Heart recipient here

Those fuckers tried to kill my Pop Pop.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago
[–] funkreddit@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So call them out!! Name and shame!!! Nazis deserve to be spit on and hunted like the lil bitches they’ve always been

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I agree with the sentiment, but... I think the same logic as not naming school shooters applies. Naming these people (or linking to their YouTube channels or whatever) tends to result in amplifying them, bringing them more views and shares. They thrive on attention. It's better not to feed the Streisand effect.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nazi is a different breed.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm all for humiliating them in public, but in my experience you can't effectively humiliate them on the internet. It's just attention for them. Obscurity is better, or reporting them to whatever platform they're on if you can demonstrate that they've violated the terms of service in some way.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Oh. Fully agree. I thought you were noting something else.

[–] funkreddit@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Fuk, you are so right!!! So frustrating

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The sad part is that this kind of works. My brown ass friend is convinced that hitler was the good guy and that he is aryan. It's good propaganda if you can convince minorities that the "gas all minorities" guy had good ideas.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

This is what doing your own research when you're an untrained researcher can look like.

[–] popsalottacornsyrup@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Evidence that war sucks and is never black and white. Fuck Nazis. Fuck Russia. Fuck authoritarian regimes.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Fuck Nazis

Yes but also let's not let amerinazis completely rewrite history here.

  • The war started in 1939.
  • America remained Neutral until Pearl Harbor in late 1941.
  • D-day happened in 1944, and was America's first major land battle in the European theatre.
  • The war was over in 1945 when the Soviet Union (under Stalin) captured Berlin. They were an ally.

Prior to this, America was supportive of eugenics. Even now, a lot of Americans are in favor of eugenics if you just don't phrase it as if it's volunteer-based (I.e. paying women to get sterilized).

After this, we were so butthurt about the commies being the heroes that we proceeded to tow the world around on a decades-long dick-measuring contest during which most the world felt they could get turned to dust at any moment, and proceed to re-write history to make it out as if America were the heroes, Churchill was the goofy sidekick, and Hitler screwed up by entering Russia in the winter.

Good thing cinema/entertainment is our biggest export, eh? Hollywood is a real-world minitru.

If there's one thing Trump has done well, it's shatter the fourth wall of the second estate.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 5 days ago

YouTube and other platforms are guilty for platforming this stuff, too.