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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] boonhet@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well yes, that's the goal of all technological progress. Ya think we have assembly lines in factories for the fun of it? Or machines automating what used to be artisanal work? CNC machines making parts that used to be forged for example. Do you think the goal of the tractor is anything more than to get by with fewer workers on the fields?

Hell, go as far back as the invention of the printing press and the owners of these could stop relying on monks copying everything by hand.

You can avoid AI altogether or if you can find a genuinely good use case for it, you can potentially use it to start a company with fewer employees, meaning less starting capital needed.

At the end of the day your problem is with capitalism and the boomers who want to retire on even larger piles of cash, not the tool that could actually be used to reduce the need for capital if it was as good as the people selling it wasn't you to think.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes, but also AI is different. In all the examples you gave, technology increases the efficiency of work that’s practical but menial. AI is the first time we have attempted to take art away from the artist or wisdom away from the wise.

It is an attempt to consolidate power at a different scale of human experience. It’s one thing to control book manufacturing; it’s something else to control the very act of writing. Consider the control over scientific research vs control over the very act of deliberation itself.

AI is an erosion of our humanity, replacing our intuitions and talents with an ersatz sludge of curated slop.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

That's only if Hyperscale AI doesn't prove to be a bubble. If AI ends up as regular software, it's a different story.

Basically, Hyperscale AI turned computing to a capital intensive industry, when it was a labour intensive industry before (which is why developers were so well paid). If that stabilizes as the new normal, then the meme is 100% true. If it turns out that after a certain point, throwing more hardware at the models doesn't really improve them AND things like quantization that turn LLMs/agents into software anyone can run on basic hardware, then we are in a different timeline.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

wealth:skill::capital:labour

It’s not a new concept, and neither are the countermeasures or remedies.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Billionaires necks are still susceptible to guillotines.

[–] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone know who said this?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wealth has always had access to skill. AI just gave them access that's even cheaper, and less likely to complain and unionize.

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 14 points 10 hours ago

that's why the "removing access to wealth" part is important

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

knowledge and data is not really skill, but i get what they were referring to

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 49 points 15 hours ago

We need to seriously deal with the wealthy, they seem intent on killing everyone else.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 143 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

And as a side effect it’s destroying the next generation’s access to skill by undermining the education system.

[–] Nobody@anarchist.nexus 51 points 16 hours ago (15 children)

The Matrix called the 90s the peak of human civilization, and it felt extreme and foolish at the time. Turned out to be prescient.

The education system started getting gutted in the 80s, and it accelerated rapidly under W in the 00s. MAGA is a direct line from this and the similar policies around it.

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[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 61 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is absolutely true

What is also true is that the Republican speaker of the House in Indiana explained their long term goal was to gut education because it wasn’t profitable.

This was in the 1980s

Mission Accomplished

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago

I mean it's a complete misunderstanding of the economic basis for profits but hey.

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[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

where is this quote? I'd rather share that than some influencer quoting the quote.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Rarely have I seen it described so succinctly!

[–] Janx@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Amazing.

I'd rather share that than some influencer quoting the quote.

@Janx@piefed.social

[–] Two9A@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

This is apparently a quote disseminated by jeffowski on the Mastodons, but said by his friend Joseph Browning on FB: https://blog.trvth.org/2024/10/underlying-purpose.html

[–] LostWanderer@fedia.io 70 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oofta, felt that in my stomach...The truth of its impactful. I love when people can succinctly summarize the purpose of things.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 11 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Oofta

found the Minnesotan

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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 9 points 14 hours ago

All these people at work are so eager to devalue themselves. They're rushing to have AI do their work and accepting the same pay.

[–] AviAdi@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago

The goal of the owners is to rid themselves of paying for things they feel entitled to. AI is another step towards total control for the real owners of this country (USA).

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

in other words: "Make the rich richer while fucking everyone else into the dirt with all available violence."

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (16 children)

This is one of those times I like to be a pedant and separate LLMs and other generating bots from what I think most people would consider intelligence. Real intelligence made from silicon could serve all of humanity, but LLMs are just the next fancy shitcoin the wealthy and their hangers-on want to convince you spits out something that has high value when it clearly doesn't (unless you're in the propaganda business).

Edited for clarity

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

define "real AI" and not as in "it's not an LLM"

edit: also 20 upvotes on this in fuck_ai? c'mon people use your heads...

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I didn't say "real AI" why are you asking for a definition? EDIT I'm dumb, edited my comment

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Real AI tech could serve all of humanity

hallucinated by AI?

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

LOL ok you got me I specifically tried to avoid saying that. I meant real intelligence. I'll edit my comment.

EDIT: And by "real intelligence" I'm speaking of beings which display traits like curiosity and creativity.

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