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cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/45077170

Actually it was called the Iran-Contra Affair.

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every. Word.

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[–] UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Don’t forget, Iran was a democratic nation in the early 1950s until America fucked it up for corporate profits. We created the conditions that brought about the Iran regime to capitulate to corporate interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

at the behest of the UK too.

[–] UsernamesAreForSuckers@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Highly recommend reading this book for more details on American interference in sovereign nations to protect corporate interests: https://ia600507.us.archive.org/0/items/ConfessionsOfAnEconomicHitman_257/JohnPerkins-ConfessionsOfAnEconomicHitman.pdf

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

whoa, direct to .pdf link, very nice, thank you. seconded your recommendation

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And now even the US is up to being couped, in a "constitutional" manner. (Fidesz'es rise to power is often being called a "constitutional coup" by some scholars.)

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm old enough to remember that some the embassy staff managed to evade capture and were hidden by the Canadian embassy staff until they could be smuggled out.

Then Hollywood made movie about it and gave Ben Affleck all the credit.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The guy that writes the book takes the credit and sells the rights to Hollywood. Tale as old as time.

At least Tony Mendez seems to enjoy a fair bit of esteem with his former colleagues. That’s not always the case.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I blame Reagan for everything that sucks today.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was just telling my kids about how public universities charge tuition because of Reagan.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Holy fucking shit. I learn new things every day about how he fucked things up.

https://newuniversity.org/2023/02/13/ronald-reagans-legacy-the-rise-of-student-loan-debt-in-america/

[–] ProjectPatatoe@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Terrifying. Thanks, I just looked up this topic. Comes back to the same as orange man saying " the educated dont like me" being just general GOP ideology I guess.

[–] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 8 points 2 days ago

And you’ll probably be right most of the time.

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Just like Trump, he just abuses the holes in the rules that have never been fixed. Reagan was the first to do that large scale, but in reality nothing out of manners or some moral code was preventing things like that happening before, and as we currently see, the americans haven't fixed anything in the last decades - it rather seems many have forgotten more than they ever learned.

The US is a joke - we can see how much their constitution and democratic institutions are worth in reality. Outside of an outsized ego and megalomaniac tendencies, there's not much to see there.

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[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He helped, but was hardly the principal person. Its a large movement fueled by hatred and bigotry, led by a small wealthy few.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

So much happened under his watch though. And he gets so much credit from republicans for the economy doing well too.

I think what makes me the most mad about him is he paved the way for the ultra rich that we have now. Massively cut taxes on the wealthy and cut regulations. The tech boom started under his watch, but was paid for by government sponsored research and colleges. They took ownership and now we’re all worse off for it.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

After dropping off their load of illegal weapons, the smugglers that Oliver North hired to smuggle the weapons down to Central America found themselves with an empty plane, a fistful of cash, and CIA protection, so what do you think they did?

That's right, they loaded their planes with cocaine, and flew them back to America, over and over and over again, starting the crack epidemic that killed millions, a lesser know outcome of the Iran-Contra Treason.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Noriega, anyone?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 31 points 2 days ago

Nixon did the same thing with the North Vietnamese so he could get elected in 1968. He didn't offer to sell them weapons, but he encouraged them to not negotiate with the Johnson administration, telling them that he'd give them better terms. Then he kept the war going for YEARS, until North Vietnam finally won it, chased the Americans out.

TREASON has is a core conservative value.

[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

The United States have been a problem country for 100+ years.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] lukaro@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So republicans have been worthless corrupt shit for as long as I've been alive..

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Even longer

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 1 day ago

Every president and the majority of senators and representatives for as long as I have lived.

[–] borQue@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

can't they do anything honest over there?

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

watched Ollie North take the blame on TV.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_North

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Im smart enough to understand history and what the US and Britain did to Mossaddegh and Iran.

This was all caused by imperialistic ambitions by western powers and 80 years later nobody remembers who caused what.

The US has been a terrorist state since its inception.

[–] GripenGal@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Hard to argue with vote blue no matter who if you look at every republican president

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[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It was called the Iran/Contra scandal

After he won

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And when the hostages-until-election deal was discovered the corporate news sewers were fine with it. Less so than now, but they could have stuck it to them, but they were outplayed by Michael Deaver.

His “Morning in America” bullshit is what we called MAGA back then. Flags. Trucks. Racism.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Something else the americans have forgotten about Canadians helping them with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Caper

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Capitalism create a self centered personality. As long as it isn't American nobody cares.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be clear, the henchman who constructed this outrageous evil was former CIA director George Herbert Walker Bush who called the FBI when JFK was shot to let them know he totally wasn’t anywhere near Dallas that day okay so don’t even bother looking.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

GHWB was one of the shooters, or at the very least, on the ground conducting the op.

Ed Lansdale. Ted Shackley. E Howard Hunt. Lee Harvey Oswald. David Morales.

Basically all of them CIA, Operation Mongoose veterans.

With Bush, JE Hoover directly mentioned him by name in a memo that supposedly didnt't exist untill oops it does and it's real.

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[–] West_of_West@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

"Did Reagan give the orders? Did cocaine pay the bills?

They said we's fighting communists, it was kinda hard to tell"

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